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Crimes & judgments in the name of god, let's see if I am writing about God that Jesus spoke of or muhammad's allah or other gods:

 

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1 - Introduction: are we worshipping the same God that Jesus spoke of?

 

2:aa - Read the following violent passages from the Torah and the Quran. Beating wives in Islam and why? Abusing female Slaves?

 

3:aa - Did Jesus break God's peaceful commandments? No, he didn't.

 

 

A * Could we consider Godís judgment a crime?

B * Did God really condemn the eunuchs and why? If those people were forced to be eunuchs How they are considered sinners?

C * God in battles:

D * Do we have to kill people to please God or allah?

E * Could we defend our selves without committing crime and how?

 

1:a - Eye for eye:

1:1 - Who is legible to condemn people to death according to the Torah after Moses' death?

1:2 -  Sinners can't condemn sinners. If sinners are permitted to stone sinners to death, we wouldn't need God

1:3 - The Torah is God's precious Word. Would you kill if the Torah commands you?

1:4 - David killed a man, and God Killed David's Son for David's crime

1:5 - Jesus commanded us to get swords to protect our selves.

1:5a - Did Jesus come to destroy God's Law and to start war instead peace?

 

1:5 B -  Does God revenge the children till the third and fourth generation and why? 

 

1:6 - Did Jesus abolish or add to God's Law"? Did Moses transgress or add other laws to God's Law?

2: Slaughtering people in the name of God:

3 - Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed in the name of God in the Torah:

4 - Other religions kill in the name of God also:

 

(the difference between Judaism and Islam) (Protestant Christians kill the Catholic Christians)

5 - Conclusion:

 

The source of this picture is from  http://www.un.int/drcongo/war/war8.htm

 

For more information, refer to page "Human's sacrifices".

 

Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

 

The following link is about Nostradamus' prophecies. This link isn't in this page. Click on the links below to read the prophecies.

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1 - Introduction:

Crimes & judgments in the name of god, let's see if I am writing about God that Jesus spoke of or muhammad's allah or other gods:

 

Could we fight evil with evil? If God commands us to kill for him to insure justice, it means we are worshipping weak and evil god, not God the Creator.

Jesus warned us about false prophets; however, Jesus didn't contradict God's Law that is the Torah and Moses. On the contrary, Jesus commands us to obey God's Law the Torah in full, without removing one dot of the Law, Matthew 5:17 to 18. However, Paul did abolish God's Law.

 

The most evident violent commandments that are in the Torah is in Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11 where God commands the people to kill anyone that persuade them to worship strange god, even the family's members.

 

In the following passage of the quran sourat altawba 9:29 to 32 the quran commands to fight those that do not believe in allah and mohamed, in passage 9:30, the quran admits that the Jews and the Christians believe God has a son. Therefore, the quran commands allah to destroy the Jews and the Christians. But how the quran can command allah to destroy the Jews and the Christians if the quran is the word of allah, the passage should say: I will destroy them both, not allah destroys them. In passage 9:31, the quran accuse the Christians making their monks and priests as lord with allah, allah destroy them. In passage 9:32, the quran accuse the Christians destroying the light of allah.

Yes, it is true, the koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight the unbelievers worldwide that don't believe in allah and his prophet mohamed, reference Quran of Islam (sourat altawba 9:29), and in Quran (sourat altawba 9:5) commands to kill the unbelievers. According to this commandment, the moslems = (muslims) are obeying allah's commandment fully. Even this commandment contains violence; the moslems = (muslims) are more obedient to their god (allah) than the Jews and the Christians. I am NOT encouraging violence, I am debating obedience. However, does this kind of obedience consider faithful, yes, but to their book, not according to peaceful humanity. I would feel safer with peaceful people that worship idols, than with those that are faithful to their book and their god that commands to kill people. At least those that worship idols don't kill people.

Sharia law of Islam in the Quran and the Torah of Judaism don't agree with Jesus' commandments in the bible.

 

Jesus says: [You have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you not to resist evil: but if one strikes thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other], Matthew 5:38 to 46 Jesus also said: [For if you will forgive men their offences, your heavenly Father will forgive you also your offences. But if you will not forgive men, neither will your Father forgive you your offences], Matthew 6:14 to 15.

We love people including sinners and those that hate us. Actually, we don't have enemies. We love those that hate us because Jesus loves them also. Jesus loves sinners, he wants them to repent. We love sinners because it is in our nature to love people, we love sinners, and we want to bring them to Jesus Christ to learn about God's peaceful Word and to learn how to love and to forgive and to live in harmony and peace with all mankind. We love people, righteous and sinners from various religions and nationalities, however, we are against sin and violence. Jesus says: [ I Jesus came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance, Matthew 9:13.]

Are the Jews, Christians, and the Muslims worshiping the same God? If they are worshipping the same God, why God of the Christians love his enemies, but Allah of the Muslims and God of the Jews seek revenge to fight the enemies? Why God of the Jews commands the Jews to fight the Canaanites, and why Allah of the Muslim Canaanites commands Muslims to fight Jews and Christians? Something is wrong.

[Visions / Prophecies (15 century) "look for" Nostradamus prophecies about the Arabs, the moon-god, "goddess", and the Arabian beast "resume"

Visions / Prophecies (15 century) "look for" Nostradamus' general prophecies (English and French version)  "complete"]

 

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God's Law and the Christian Churches "from various congregations, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam"

 

When the koran = (quran) commands the believers in allah to kill those that don't believe in allah Quran (sourat altawba 9:5) and Quran (sourat altawba 9:29), it means the believers are judging sinners instead of God. And if the believers kill sinners in the name of allah, the believers that killed sinners become sinners also because they killed people. God judges sinners, it is your job to judge people. We all sinned and we are not perfect. The judge has to be perfect without sin, God is sinless and perfect. Are you perfect and without sin??

We don't obey any violent commandments, whether they are in the Torah " or in the koran = (quran)" because God commands us to be peaceful. God's commandments commands no to kill. Moreover, we are contradicting Paul's teachings through his epistles because he abolished the entire Law of God.

The difference between us and Paul is that we are obeying God's peaceful commandments, which is perfect. However, Paul denied God's Law fully including the Ten commandments, Ephesians 2:13 to 15.

Paul did abolish God's Law including the ten Commandments that are in the Torah and gave permission to the people to flourish in sin because they are saved. According to Paul's heretic epistles, the churches are saved even through transgressions. They believe that once the person is saved, he or she will never lose salvation even in transgressions.

Let compare Jesus' word with Paul's, Jesus said:

[if you want to enter into life obey the Commandments, Matthew 19: 17.

[17 Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen; by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 He therefore that shall break one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, that unless your justice abound more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven, Matthew 5:17 to 20.]

 

"Definitely, Paul is a false apostle"

Paul said: The Ten Commandments are vanished because of its weakness and unprofitable-ness therefore, for the law made nothing perfect. For the law brought nothing to perfection, but a bringing in of a better hope, by which we draw nigh to God, Hebrews 7:18 to 19.

Paul said: God's covenant has faults and therefore, it requires another covenant, Hebrews 8:7.

Paul said: For if that former had been faultless, there should not indeed a place have been sought for a second, Hebrews 8:7. [in different transitions]

Paul said: God's Law decays and grows old, is near its end, Hebrews 8:13.

Paul said: God's Law is old and ready to vanish away, Hebrews 8:13. [in different transitions]

 

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1:aa - Are we permitted to choose the peaceful commandments of God without the violent ones?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I must elucidate that Moses' God didn't issue any violent commandment in the Torah.

According to Godís Commandment, killing people is prohibited. If this so, who inserted these violent passages? 

 

There are many books that contain violent as the the Koran = (quran), who wrote the quran & who inserted the violent passages? Any book or any doctrine that contain violent commandments, those violent commandments are not of God the creator.

 

Jesus' gospel is peaceful and it doesnít contain any commandments to kill people.

How God judges his people? It is God's Work, not ours.

 

It is not the Muslims' duty or the Jews' duty to judge and to kill sinners. God is capable to judge, he doesn't need his creations' helps. You can't even help yourself, how can you help God.

 

Well, we are obeying God's peaceful commandments. We are not sorting passages from the bible that correspond to our lifestyle; we are obeying God's Word that commands us to be righteous and peaceful.

 

We don't obey violent commandments. The Torah and the Koran = (quran) command individuals to kill people. Moreover, in the same books, we find peaceful passages also. So, some pages are peaceful and some are violent. Something is wrong.

 

Is Allah God?

 

Even with the following violent two commandments that are in the Torah and in the quran religious people consider Islam and Judaism are celestial religions because they believe in the same God. They believe allah is God.

 

However, God is not allah, God loves the Jews, allah hates the Jews. God of the Christians has a Son called Jesus, allah of islam believe God has no Son. Christians believe Jesus died on the cross, quran denies Jesus death on the cross. Allah took him alive to heaven. Muslims believe Jesus that was crucified is false Christ = antichrist.

 

Christian believe Jesus died on the cross & he is the Christ. Christians believe also that the messiah of islam is the antichrist. So, alla is not God of the Jews & the Christians.

 

References from the Quran of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5) and  (sourat altawba 9:29)

References from the Torah of Judaism Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11

 
Who is "or was" authorized to condemn people to death, the Jews, Christians, or the Muslims? No one, God condemns sinners. Could Jesus forgive sinners? Yes. Read the following passage.

It reads: 3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto Jesus a woman taken in adultery: and they set her in the midst, 4 And said to him: Master, this woman was even now taken in adultery. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us to stone such a one. But what sayest thou? 6 And this they said tempting him, that they might accuse him. But Jesus = (Yeshua) bowing himself down, wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again stooping down, he wrote on the ground. 9 But they hearing this, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest. And Jesus = (Yeshua) alone remained, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 Then Jesus = (Yeshua) lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? 11 Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus = (Yeshua) said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more. Bible John 8:7 to 11.

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However, according to the Quran, sinners as thieves, adulterers and blasphemers shall be punished by the religious Muslims on earth and by Allah at the judgment day after they die. But the faithful Muslims that kill Muslim sinners, adulterers by stoning, cutting the hands of thieves, and killing non-Muslims, don't consider sinners; they shall be rewarded by Allah and shall go to the garden = [paradise = janah of Allah].

 

The books of Torah and the Koran = (quran) command individuals to kill people, and in other passages in the same books, they command individuals NOT to kill. Moreover, the Torah commands the Jews to kill the Canaanites to take their lands because they believe God Yahweh told them so through Moses.

 

Even with these two horrible commandments that are in the Torah and in the Quran religious people consider Islam and Judaism are celestial religions because they believe in the same God. They believe Allah is God.

 

References from the Quran of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5) and  (sourat altawba 9:29)

References from the Torah of Judaism Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11

 

I don't believe such false statement because Allah hate Jews and Christians and God hate the Canaanites. In the Quran, Allah commands Muslims to fight Jews because Allah turned them into pigs and apes, Allah also commands Muslims to fight Christians because they believe Jesus is the Son of God and they believe Jesus is equal with God.

 

Through these contradictions in the Torah, Jesus' gospel, and in the Quran, I don't believe God and Allah are the same.

 

Moreover, we believe that the violent passages that are in the Quran are not logic because God want us to be peaceful and God is capable to judge sinners without people helps. How could a blind lead another blind? Moreover, how a sinner could judge another sinner? When the Pharisees were stoning an adulterer woman, Jesus told them, anyone of you without sin, let him trough the first stone. Then, they stopped stoning the woman and left.

Therefore, we are following the prince of peace Jesus Christ.


 
Who is "was" authorized to condemn people to death, the Jews, Christians, or the Muslims? Non, God condemns sinners.

3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman taken in adultery: and they set her in the midst, 4 And said to him: Master, this woman was even now taken in adultery. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us to stone such a one. But what sayest thou? 6 And this they said tempting him, that they might accuse him. But Jesus = (Yeshua) bowing himself down, wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again stooping down, he wrote on the ground. 9 But they hearing this, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest. And Jesus = (Yeshua) alone remained, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 Then Jesus = (Yeshua) lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? 11 Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus = (Yeshua) said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more. Bible John 8:7 to 11.

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2:aa - Read the following violent passages from the Torah and the Quran.

 

The violent passages that are in the Quran are originals as they were written by Mohammed' followers.

But, the violent passages that are in the Torah were added to the Torah by the scribes and the Pharisees to achieve personal, political, and religious objectives.

Jesus criticized the scribes and the Pharisees for changing the commandments of God with their traditions and accused them with their fathers killing the prophets. It means the violent passages were added to the Torah by the scribes and the Pharisees because Jesus didn't criticize the Torah. Jesus commanded us to obey the Torah because it is peaceful. The prince of peace, Jesus did obey the Torah. read the following passage from the book of Matthew concerning Jesus' accusation to the scribes and the Pharisees.

 

[3 But Jesus said to the scribes and Pharisees : Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? For God said:] Matthew 15:3

[ 2 Jesus said: The scribes and the Pharisees have sited on the chair of Moses]. Matthew 23:2.
[31 Jesus said to the Pharisees: Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets]. Matthew 23:31.

Note: There is a big difference between Judaism and Islam. According to Quran sourat altawba 9:29, and (sourat altawba 9:29) Muslims kill people that don't convert to Islam. According to the Torah, Jews don't force anyone to convert to Judaism, but the Torah in Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11 Moses commands the Jews to kill those that persuade them to worship a strange god.

The Torah contains violent passage in Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11 but they stopped practicing these violent passages for the past 2000 years, but muslims still practicing the violent passage in the quran to kill people especially Jews and Christians for the past 1400 years, and will never stop until they convert the entire world to Islam. Read sourat altawba 9:29, and Quran (sourat altawba 9:5)

Example  from Judaism Torah: [But thou shall presently put him to death. It Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people. 10 With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage: 11 That all Israel hearing may fear, and may do no more any thing like this, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11]

Example from the Quran of Islam: Allah says in Quran: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of allah; and the [nasara] Christians say: The Messiah is the son of allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may allah destroy them; how they are turned away!] sourat altawba 9:29 to 33

Example from the Quran of Islam: Allah says in Quran: [ slay the idolaters anywhere you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5).]

Example from Judaism Torah: Moses permitted the Hebrew people to kill children and women. The passage reads: [33 And the Lord our God delivered him to us: and we slew him with his sons and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, killing the inhabitants of them, men and women and children. We left nothing of them: 35 except the cattle which came to the share of them that took them: and the spoils of the cities, which we took,] Deuteronomy 2:33 to 35.

Example from the Quran of Islam: Allah says in Quran: [The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat almaeda 5:33).

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Beating women "wives" woman in Islam and why? 

 

 

 

 

 

Example from the Quran of Islam: Allah says in Quran:[Men are the maintainers of women because allah has made some of them to excel others because of what they had spend out of their moneys; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and forsake them in "their sleeping-places" [beds] and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely allah is High, Great] (koran = (quran) of Islam (koran sourat alnissa 4:34).

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Abusing female Slaves?

Accurate translation from Arabic version to English, Allah says in Quran: [And from the muhas-anat [married Muslim women] are forbidden to you except those whom your possess this is Allah ordinance to you And lawful for you after behind that you seek with your moneys muhasanin la musafahin = [married women that are NOT FREE = slaves] all the pleasure that you have obtained of them, pay them their labors as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing Wise. (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat alnisa 4:24)

Wrong English translation by some muslims on the world web, quran reads: [4:24] And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah's ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise
 

Warning for the following word that is mentioned in the above passage [taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication] doesn't' exist in (sourat alnisa 4:24), it was added by some Muslims to deceive westerns. No obligations to marry a slave girl, as it is commanded by Allah in the quran, a Muslim man should pay the slave girl to have all pleasures he needs from her.

The rest of the laws in the Torah disturb Obama that concern eating shellfish, but Obama didn't mention about the quran prohibits muslims to eat pork "pigs". The Torah of Judaism in the Bible also prohibits people to eat pork also, but Obama didn't read the entire bible, or probably didn't mention it because the Quran prohibits eating pork. So, Obama prepared his speech to disgrace Judaism and Christianity, not Islam. God prohibits people to consume Shellfish and pork because it is not healthy. The shellfishes usually remain in the bottom of the seas where they eat the waists of other fishes and humans' waists also. Some of these rubbishes washed away to shores for rats eat. The pork is unclean to eat; the swine "pigs" eat garbage. The pork produces worms if left in room-temperature. During Moses' era, they didn't have facilities to keep the pork chilly. Even so, in modern days, we shouldn't eat pork because it contains a lot of fat. The Torah prohibits eating bloods and fats, which is proven medically and scientifically. Bloods contains germs and plagues; the fats and cholesterols block the arteries and cause heart's dieses. What left from the law that the people are complaining about is the animalsí sacrifices. This law wasnít abolished; Jesus replaced it through his death on the cross as a remission of our sins to obtain forgiveness. Where is the problem? As a Christian, donít you claim Jesusí death for your sins? I do, Obama doesn't because he obeys allah and the Quran. Muslims still killing animals to obtain forgiveness, the Jews also kill animals to obtain forgiveness. Christians claim Jesus' death on the cross instead a lamb for sins' offerings.

We can't just listen to the false apostle Paul and to Barrack Hussein Obama that criticized the Torah and Jesus' gospel.

Obama mentioned about parents killing their son if gone astray from faith in the Torah. Moreover, Obama criticized Jesus' Sermon on the Mount and mocked the entire bible including Abraham.

BUT WHY Obama didn't criticized the Quran? Obama didn't criticize the quran because he is a sunni Muslim.

 

 

Could we eliminate evil by been evil? If God commands us to kill for him to insure justice, it means we are worshipping weak and evil god, not God the Creator.

To read religious verses about the above text, refer to page "Islamic and bible verses" in this site.

For more information about why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

For more information about Paul's deception to the church and about the violent passages of the Torah, refer to, page  "Law", page "Crescent", page  False apostle Paul  page, Witnesses about the false apostle Paul Part 1, and page Witnesses about the fale apostle Paul Part 2

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3:aa - Did Jesus break God's peaceful commandments? No, he didn't.

 

 

There is one passage in the book of Luke, where Jesus mentions about tribulations and wars because of his name. The people, especially the moslems = (muslims) are claiming that this passage is violent. 

 

The passage reads: [32 Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven. 33 But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. 34 Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. 35 For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And as a man's enemies shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not up his cross, and followeth me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for me, shall find it. 40 He that receiveth you, receiveth me: and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me, Matthew 10:32 to 39.

 

Jesus meant that there will be divergence between families and friends concerning his name and for him been the Christ = (Messiah). There are even separations in churches through misinterpreting the scriptures concerning Jesus. Jesus didn't mean that he came to cause wars and divisions, the people did it because they weren't in one accord with others concerning Jesus as the Messiah or as the Son of God, or as God [holy trinity].

 

The Ten Commandments commands us to love God first and then our neighbors, and to respect the fathers and the mothers. Notice, God commanded us to respect our parents but we should love Him first and second, we must love our neighbors as our selves. There is difference between "respect" and "Love".

 

Jesus mentioned about unconditional love. He said: [if you love those that love you, what reward shall you expect from God; even sinners do]. Jesus meant to love all people including your enemies unconditionally. Islam believe the opposite, the family and relatives come first. 

 

Jesus wanted us to love him more than our families, which is normal. Jesus isn't God, Jesus is the Word of God. God sent His only begotten Son Jesus to preach His Word and to redeem us. Placing Jesus in priority is as placing God's Word first. Not because Jesus is God, but because Jesus spoke God's Word. 

 

Could we eliminate evil by been evil? If God commands us to kill for him to insure justice, it means we are worshipping weak and evil god, not God the Creator.

To read religious verses about the above text, refer to page "Islamic and bible verses" in this site.

For more information about why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

For more information about Paul's deception to the church and about the violent passages of the Torah, refer to page "Crescent", page  False apostle Paul,  page Witnesses about the false apostle Paul Part 1, and page Witnesses about the false apostle Paul Part 2

Jesus warned us about false prophets; however, Jesus didn't contradict God's Law that is the Torah and Moses. On the contrary, Jesus commands us to obey God's Law the Torah in full, without removing one dot of the Law, Matthew 5:17 to 18.

The above three passages indicate the accuracy and the peaceful commandments in the Torah; however, where the killing commandments in the Torah came from? Are we reading the same Torah of Jesus' era?

During Jesus' era, Jesus spoke peace and rejected revenge. Jesus confirmed the accuracy and the peaceful commandments of the Torah = (God's Law). If Jesus spoke peacefully about the Torah and God's Law, why the Torah contains violent commandments?

If we are worshiping a god that commands us to kill people, it means that we are worshipping the wrong god, not God the Creator.

Seek God's blessing and His peaceful Word to achieve prosperity and peaceful world. Don't follow religions.

According to some violent commandments that are in the Torah, God commanded the Hebrews to leave Egypt with wealth. He told them to rob the Egyptians. Do you believe God would command His people to steal?

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".]

The passage reads: 21 And I will give favor to this people, in the sight of the Egyptians: and when you go forth, you shall not depart empty: 22 But every woman shall ask of her neighbor, and of her that is in her house, vessels of silver and of gold, and raiment: and you shall put them on your sons and daughters, and this how you shall rob [spoil] the Egyptians, Exodus 3:21 to 22.

The moslems = (muslims) believe in god ďallahĒ of the koran = (quran) that commands them to kill whosoever doesn't believe in allah and in his prophet [mohamed], and whosoever tries to deceive them with strange religion. The Jews follow the violent commandments that are in the Torah, which are guided by violent god who commands his people to kill preachers and relatives that try to deceive them with strange gods also. [The original Torah doesnít contain violent.] The Christians are killing each other, and disobeying God's Law, which violate Jesusí Christís commandment.

Could we eliminate evil by been evil? If God commands us to kill for him to insure justice, it means we are worshipping weak and evil god, not God the Creator.

According to some violent commandments that are in the Torah, God sent the king of Babylon to kill His people in his sanctuary. Do you believe God would commit such crimes or persuade the king of Babylon to do so? No, God doesn't commit such crimes; the bible claims that those violent commandments were announced by God Yahweh. God would judge sinners by himself; He doesn't need people and doesn't persuade people to commit crimes to judge sinners. How anyone or a judge could commits crime to judge sinners? No one could insure righteousness and justice through crimes.

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".]

The passage reads: 15 And the Lord the God of their fathers sent to them, by the hand of his messengers, rising early, and daily admonishing them: because he spared his people and his dwelling place. 16 But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused the prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, and there was no remedy. 17 For the Lord brought upon them the king of the Chaldeans =[Babylon] , and he slew their young men with the sword in the house of his sanctuary, he had no compassion on young man, or maiden, old man or even him that stooped for age, but he delivered them all into his hands. 18 And all the vessels of the house of the Lord, great and small, and the treasures of the temple and of the king, and of the princes he carried away to Babylon. 19 And the enemies set fire to the house of God, and broke down the wall of Jerusalem, burnt all the towers, and whatsoever was precious they destroyed. 20 Whosoever escaped the sword, was led into Babylon, and there served the king and his sons till the reign of the king of Persia, Second Chronicles 36:15 to 20. [Note: Persians = (Persia) = (Iran)]

Are the giants the descendants of Cain and Esau? For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

God is our heavenly Father; He supplies our needs, cares about us, and guides us to dwell in righteousness. God created everything on this planet earth, heavens, and all universes. God the creator is the God of all mankind, ďHe isnít God of Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac onlyĒ; He is above all gods.

God is Love, and His Law is Love as well. Godís Law isnít a curse. The law that commands you to kill isnít of Godís Law.

Did God and Moses announce violent commandments in the Torah? Who did it and what the motive was? The peaceful God that Jesus spoke of doesn't command His people to kill one another. If the peaceful God command us NOT TO KILL, how the same God could command us to kill through the same Torah? Are there any differences between the peaceful God that Jesus spoke of and the violent God of the Torah? Why there is a different between the God that Jesus spoke of and the God of the Torah? Jesus spoke about the same God that spoke to Moses. If Jesus spoke about the God that spoke to Moses in the Torah peacefully during his era, why the same God has violent character in the Torah in our era? Are we reading the same Torah that Jesus spoke of?

Do religions aim for peace or for violent?

If God command you to kill for him and in His name, do you have to obey His Commandments?

Are you really searching for peaceful God?

Did you find the real God that aims for peace?

Are you really worshipping the same God that Jesus spoke of? 

If Jesus spoke about the peaceful Torah, why the Torah and the koran = (quran) contain violent?

If god commands us to kill in his name, it means we are worshipping the wrong god, not God the Creator? 

For more information, refer to page "Torah" and page "Ishmael Isaac".        

If God prohibits us to kill, why He commands us to kill people in His name?

If Christianity is the only religion that promotes peace, why Jesus confirms the peaceful Torah and commands us to obey it fully. 

If the Torah is the peaceful Word of God, why it commands us to kill in God's name?

Was Jesus wrong when he commanded us to obey the Torah?

Or, are we reading different Torah than the Torah that Jesus spoke of?

Do we have to continue worshipping religion instead the peaceful God?

Are you ashamed or afraid to admit your worship to the wrong god?

If you think, I am wrong, show me the peaceful God that you know.

If we can't prove our God is peaceful in all His inspired scriptures, it means we are worshipping the wrong god. If our god commands us to kill people, it means we are worshipping the wrong god, not God the Creator.

For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac", page "Torah", page "Law", and page "Author's Introduction"

Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

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A - Could We consider Godís judgment a crime?

The Actual Torah doesn't command the people to kill in the name of God. God the creator is God of all people, not the God of Israel only.

When God judge sinners and ungodly people to death, He judges through righteous judgment. It is impossible for God to make mistake. Human being does err in everything; therefore, the death penalty shouldnít be applied by human.

If our religion commands us to kill those that are in other religions; and the other religions command their followers to kill people from our religion, WHO IS SERVING THE RIGHT GOD IN THOSE RELIGIONS? No one, I don't believe God commands the people to kill each other. Religions don't exist in God's Kingdom. Our relation is with the peaceful God, not with religion. Any religion or religious person, or any prophet issues violent commandments to kill people in the name of God; the religion, the religious person, and the prophet are false.

 

Jesus spoke the Word concerning God forsaken certain people and blessing others, he said: [15 For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, because they see, and your ears, because they hear.

17 For, amen, I say to you, many prophets and just men have desired to see the things that you see, and have not seen them, and to hear the things that you hear and have not heard them,] Matthew 13:15 to 17.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are many categories in the killing acts. Killing human being in the name of God is not logic, and not permitted. Killing human being children through abortions to please women is a crime and prostitution on the infants' accounts. For more information about abortions, refer to page "Abortions".

Moses didn't condemn people to death according to God's Commandment. We donít know if this component of Godís Law existed during Mosesí era. God didnít announce any violent commandments? Man kills through his own judgment; God judges through His righteous Godly judgment. God doesn't need us to judge sinners.

Human being errs in everything; therefore, the death penalty shouldnít be applied by human. However, the Torah's Law condemns certain criminals to death through manmade judgment, not through God. Example: God commands the Hebrews or the people that obey the Torah to kill whosoever tries to deceive them through strange god or false religion. Whosoever works on Sabbath day shall lose his heritage as chosen. However, Moses killed a man who was searching for woods in the forest on Sabbath day. Stoning to death is permitted in adultery; a Killer shall be condemned to death also. Should we believe such commandments? No, according to Jesus' word, human being is not God to judge sinners to death? Many innocent people were condemned to death through wrong judgments.

Example: The book of the Second Samuel indicates: God is killing the people of Israel. We don't really know if God really did such massacre. We can't judge God but we are entitled to search for the truth. This passage confirms God's judgment on His people before the last days. Usually, God doesn't interfere in human behavior till the end. However, God does interfere in certain status.

The passage reads: [15 And the Lord sent a pestilence upon Israel, from the morning unto the time appointed, and there died of the people from Dan to Bersabee seventy thousand men. 16 And when the angel of the Lord had stretched out his hand over Jerusalem to destroy it, the Lord had pity on the affliction, and said to the angel that slew the people: It is enough: now hold thy hand. And the angel of the Lord was by the thrashing floor of Areuna the Jebusite, Second Samuel 24:15 to 16.]

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B - Did God really condemn the eunuchs and why? If those people were forced to be eunuchs How they are considered sinners?

Why a cripple or sick person can't enter into the congregation and isn't permitted to offer sacrifices to the Lord God? Something is wrong.

The Torah (bible) condemns the eunuchs. Who issued these commandments, God or Moses. The Torah that Jesus spoke of is peaceful. Jesus was healing the sick. If Jesus and his God that he spoke of didn't issue these commandments, who did it?

The passage reads: [1 An eunuch, whose testicles are broken or cut away, or yard cut off, shall not enter into the church of the Lord. 2 A mamzer, that is to say, one born of a prostitute, shall not enter into the church of the Lord, until the tenth generation. 3 The Ammonite and the Moabite, even after the tenth generation shall not enter into the church of the Lord for ever: 4 Because they would not meet you with bread and water in the way, when you came out of Egypt: hand because they hired against thee Balaam, the son of Beer, from Mesopotamia in Syria, to curse thee, Deuteronomy 23: 1 to 4.

God even condemns animals: The passage reads: [24 You shall not offer to the Lord any beast that hath the testicles bruised, or crushed, or cut and taken away: neither shall you do any such thing in your land, Leviticus 22:24.]

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C - God in battles:

The Southern Kingdom of Judah was controlled by Judah and Benjamin. The southern kingdom of Judah had battled with the Northern kingdom of Israel.

Do you believe  God permitted the tribe of Dan to kill the tribe of Lais = (Laish) to take their land because it was fruitful? I don't believe such claim. God is not evil.

The tribe of Dan defeated the tribe of Lais = (Laish) and took their land. Then, they named it the land of Dan instead.

The passage rteaads:9 Arise, and let us go up to them: for we have seen the land which is exceeding rich and fruitful: neglect not, lose no time: let us go and possess it, there will be no difficulty. 10 We shall come to a people that is secure, into a spacious country, and the Lord will deliver the place to us, in which there is no want of any thing that grows on the earth. 11 There went therefore of the kindred of Dan, to wit, from Saraa and Esthaol, six hundred men, furnished with arms for war, 12 And going up they lodged in Cariathiarim of Juda = (Judah): which place from that time is called the camp of Dan, and is behind Cariathiarim. 13 From thence they passed into mount Ephraim. And when they were come to the house of Michas, Judges 18:10 to 13.

[Note: Cariathiarim = (Cariath - Iarim) or (Cariat - Hiarim), which means the village of Iarim = (Hiarim); other translations say: "Kirathjearim or "Kirath -Jearim"]

The tribes of Israel killed in the name of God to revenge rape's crime.

Do you believe the peaceful God have issued such commandment?

They claim God of Israel told them to do so. What is the difference between God the creator and God of Israel?

Did these crimes really happen?

Did God command them to kill?

The tribe of Benjamin raped a woman from the northern kingdom of Israel who was with her husband during their journey in Gabaa = (Gibeah); Judges, 19:22 to 28. The woman died after the men finished rapping her all night. In the name of God, the tribe of Dan revenged, they killed twenty five thousands men and women from the tribe of Benjamin, Judges 20:18 to 48.

Then, the children of Israel with Dan's tribe regretted killing the tribe of Benjamin. They decided to reestablish the seed of Benjamin, Judges 21:1 to 10. The tribe of Dan killed the inhabitants of Jabes Galaad by the sword, men, women and children, who had sexual relations. However, they had saved the males and the females that had no sexual relation. The tribe of Dan gave those virgins to the tribe of Benjamin, Judges 21:11 to 18. The female weren't enough for the males of Benjamin. Then, they told the tribe of Benjamin to steal the females of Silo when they come to celebrate and to dance at the Lord's Day. So, the tribe of Benjamin did steal those virgins girls, Judges 21:19 to 21.

The names of the twelve transgressors tribes shall be displayed on the twelve gates of New Holy City Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is the New City or the city of God that shall ascend from heaven after God create new heaven and new earth. The New Jerusalem is for the obedient people that shall dwell with God forever. The twelve foundations of the New Jerusalem are the twelve disciples of Jesus also.

How God could permit twelve names of transgressor father to be on the gates of His New Holy City Jerusalem?

God doesn't permit such heresy. If God didn't command, who did it? If those tribes are the sons of transgressor father, who is the righteous father of those tribes?

Are the giants the descendants of Cain and Esau? For more information about the "peacefuil" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

The myth about the rape in Judge 19:23 to 27 by the men of Benjamin in Gabaa = (Gibeah) is similar to the event that happened with Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19:5 to 8. These two events are myths. Why those men go after a man? If those men desire males to have sex with, they could do it within their gang. They don't have to wait for a stranger to pass in their territory. Usually, those male fighters search for females, not males.

The first event in the book of Genesis: The men that asked Lot for the two men rejected the two daughters of Lot. It is abnormal to spoil a female to protect a man. Lot was willing to gave his two virgin daughters to save the two males visitors = (angels).

The second event In the book of Judges: The men of Benjamin whom were traveling through Gabaa = (Gibeah) followed the traveler Levite till he entered the house of the elder. The men of Benjamin surrounded the house and asked the elder, which is the owner of the house to give the traveler Levite. The elder refuse, he offered his virgin daughter and the wife of the traveler in according to save the traveler Levite. Then, the Levite took his wife out to those men to have sex with her all night till she died. How the Levite traveler gave his wife to save himself, Judges 19:23 to 26. This act is sinful also. The Benjamin's gang was asking for him to have fun, not with his wife.

However, when the Levite went out to give his wife to those men why the men didn't take him and his wife to have sex with. If they homosexual why they had accepted the female instead the male.

It is not logic from the elder, which is the owner of the house to offer his virgin daughter and the wife of the visitor to protect his male visitor. Who is practicing homosexuality, the elder or the men of Benjamin? 

Then, the Levite traveler took his wife's body and cut it into twelve parts with its bones and buried those twelve parts of his wife's body in twelve locations in the land of Israel, Judges 19:29. How the Levite could do such harsh act by cutting his wife's body to twelve pieces? These events are myths.

The passage in the book of Judges: [I have a maiden daughter and the man's wife, I will bring them out to you, and you may humble them, and satisfy your lust: only, I beseech you, commit not this crime against nature on the man. Judges 19:29]

The elder was willing to give his daughter to prevent the Benjamin males from committing [homosexuality] abomination to have sex with male. However, I find both acts abominating nature and God's Law. Those men wanted to commit a sin, and the elder wanted to stop them from committing this sin by committing another sin.

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Example: The book of Jeremiah 46:26 to 28 tells us: God shall destroy all the nations that are against Jacob and his descendants. However, God excluded salvations for the rest of the Hebrews. The book of Jeremiah is not the Torah. God the creator is the God of all mankind, for God to exclude the entire world except Jacob, it means that this God is God of Jacob ONLY. When the bible tells us that God the creator is God of Israel, it means that the rest of the world is abandoned.

When the koran = (quran) commands the believers in allah to kill those that don't believe in allah Quran (sourat altawba 9:5) and Quran (sourat altawba 9:29), it means the believers are judging sinners instead of God. And if the believers kill sinners in the name of allah, the believers that killed sinners become sinners also because they killed people. God judges sinners, it is your job to judge people. We all sinned and we are not perfect. The judge has to be perfect without sin, God is sinless and perfect. Are you perfect and without sin??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When the Torah and the koran = (quran) command us to kill in the name of God, it means that we are not worshipping the real God. When God commands us to kill our neighbors to take their lands that He promised to give, or to kill the unbelievers in allah, it means God wants us to commit crimes. The killing commandments are mentioned in the koran = (quran) also because someone copied those commandments and thousands of passages from the Torah and from Jesus' gospel also. Do you believe God wants His people to kill each other through manmade judgment? NO. God is capable to do it through His righteous judgment. God commands in the Torah to kill those try to deceive the Hebrews with strange god or strange religion. allah commands in the koran = (quran) to kill those don't believe in him also, Quran (sourat altawba 9:5).

If both books command us to kill each other for the real God, it means both books are wrong concerning the killings' commandments. The real God isn't evil. If the books of those religions command you NOT TO KILL human being in one passage, and then, command you in different passage to kill the unbelievers or certain people to overcome their lands and moneys, it means something is wrong.

I obey the authentic peaceful Torah and I believe in Jesus Christ. I love all the people from all backgrounds including Jews, moslems = (muslims), and Christians. However, I dislike sin and violence.

Yes, it is true, the koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight the unbelievers worldwide that don't believe in allah and his prophet mohamed, reference Quran of Islam (sourat altawba 9:29), and in Quran (sourat altawba 9:5) commands to kill the unbelievers. According to this commandment, the moslems = (muslims) are obeying allah's commandment fully. Even this commandment contains violence; the moslems = (muslims) are more obedient to their god (allah) than the Jews and the Christians. I am NOT encouraging violence, I am debating obedience.

However, does this kind of obedience consider faithful, yes, but to their book, not according to peaceful humanity. I would feel safer with peaceful people that worship idols, than with those that are faithful to their book and their god that commands to kill people. At least those that worship idols don't kill people.

The koran = (quran) permits all mankind to embrace islam and to worship allah. The Jews deprave the non-Jews to obey the Torah and to worship God Yahweh. The Christians are disgracing God by disobeying His Law in "the original Torah" through the false apostle Paul. Did God announce those violent commandments in the Torah? God has nothing to do with these violent commandments, God is love, He commands us to love, and prohibits us to kill.

The Jews believe God is God of the Jews and God of Israel only. The Christians love God and obey Paul's theology instead God Yahweh. God Yahweh is God of all mankind; not the God of the Jews and the muslims only.

For more information about the violent passages that are in the Torah, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight sinners and those that don't believe in allah. koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors, (sourat albakara 2:193).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [Fighting is enjoined = (requested) on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and allah knows, while you do not know, (sourat albakara 2:216).]
 

koran = (quran) of Islam reads, allah says: [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.[47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
[47.6] And cause them to enter the garden
= [paradise = Janah of allah] which He has made known to them. (sourat mohamed 47:4 to 6)]

 

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and allah will inform them of what they did, (sourat almaeda 5:14).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, (sourat almaeda 5:33)]

 koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [O followers of the Book = (Torah bible old and new testaments)! [you are nothing] you follow no good to keep up the Taurat = (Torah) and the A-njel = (Gospel) = (new testaments) and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the blaspheme people, (sourat almaeda 5:68 to 75),

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from allah's way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in allah's way, announce to them a painful chastisement,
[35] On the day when it shall be heated in the fire of hell, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it; this is what you hoarded up for yourselves, therefore taste what you hoarded,
(sourat altawba 9:34 to 35)]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And whoever does not believe in allah and his apostle, then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers, (sourat alfatih 48:13),

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists = (Moushrekeen) = (Christians) = (Trinitarians) shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men, (sourat albaynet 98:6).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He = (allah) then chastise you for your faults? (sourat almaada 5:18).]

I am not stating that islam is better religion than Christianity. Religions shouldn't exit. The Torah and the koran = (quran) contains violent commandments. Paul was possessed with the devil, therefore, he was teaching to abolish God's Law. Paul's epistles shouldn't be in the bible and they shouldn't be considered of Jesus' gospel.

Jesus' gospel is peaceful. Are you planning to be peaceful or violent? How could you be peaceful if you are following the Torah, Paul's epistles, or the koran = (quran)?

The Torah also commands the Hebrew people to kill the Canaanites to overcome their lands, and those that try to deceive them to worship strange gods.

The Torah commands the people to kill in the name of God also, Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 17:5 to 7, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11, Deuteronomy 21:20 to 23, Deuteronomy 22:20 to 24, Numbers 14:8 to 10, Numbers 15:32 to 36, Numbers 35:16 to 17. [6 If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou love as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou knowest not, nor thy fathers, 7 Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other, 8 Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him, 9 But thou shalt presently put him to death. It Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people. 10 With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage: 11 That all Israel hearing may fear, and may do no more any thing like this, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11. ]

Are we worshipping a peaceful God? How do we know we are worshipping the right God, the Creator?

 

If our religion commands us to kill those that are in other religions; and the other religions command their followers to kill people from our religion, WHO IS SERVING THE RIGHT GOD IN THOSE RELIGIONS? No one, I don't believe God commands the people to kill each other. Religions don't exist in God's Kingdom. Our relation is with the peaceful God, not with religion. Any religion or religious person, or any prophet issues violent commandments to kill people in the name of God; the religion, the religious person, and the prophet are false.

The (koran = (quran) encourages the people to embrace the religion of Islam and to learn the (koran = (quran). I could be wrong, refer to page "koran = (quran)".

The koran = (quran)'s passage of Islam reads: [So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters anywhere you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely allah is Forgiving, Merciful, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5).]

The koran = (quran)'s passage reads: The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat almaeda 5:33).

For more information about the tribes of Israel and about Ishmael and Isaac, refer to page "Ishmael Isaac".

God gives salvation to Jacob and his descendants only. The passage reads: 26 And I will deliver them into the hand of them that seek their lives, into the hand of Nabuchodonosor = (Nebuchadrezzar) = (Nebuchadnezzar) king of Babylon, and into the hand of his servants: and afterwards it shall be inhabited, as in the days of old, saith the Lord. 27 And thou my servant Jacob, fear not and be not thou dismayed, O Israel: for behold I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed out of the land of their captivity: and Jacob shall return and be at rest, and prosper: and there shall be none to terrify him. 28 And thou, my servant Jacob, fear not, saith the Lord: because I am with thee, for I will consume all the nations to which I have cast thee out: but thee I will not consume, but I will correct thee in judgment, yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished, Jeremiah 46:26 to 28.

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D - Do we have to kill people to please God and allah?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How God and allah command us "NOT to kill" in one commandment, but they commands us "to kill" in other commandments through the same books?

Do moslems = (muslims) have to kill Christians and Jews in Africa and worldwide to please allah?

Do protestant christians in Northern Island have to kill the Catholic Christians to please religion?

Do Christians have to ban Jesus and to flourish in sin to follow Paul's heretic epistles?

Is there a difference between God and allah?

For more information, refer to column "God and allah" in Site's Index 1

The source of this image is from  http://www.un.int/drcongo/war/war8.htm

God commands us NOT to kill through His Law that He gave to Moses. I certainly believe this commandment is God's Word. However, WHY Moses and Joshua commanded the people to kill in the name of God Yahweh? Therefore, I am questing, are we really worshipping the same God that Jesus spoke of?

And if we aren't worshipping the same God that Jesus spoke of, who is this god that commands us to kill in the Torah. Did Jesus spoke about different God?

Are we reading the actual Word of God in the Torah? I believe God spoke to Moses concerning His Law to humanity, but I don't believe God told Moses to command us to kill in the name of God. Did Moses add to God's Law or someone did it after Moses' era to cover their crimes and to blame it on God? Moses didn't change God's Word; someone did it to achieve their goals and to cover their dirty crimes.

It means we are not reading the actual Word of God. I believe God spoke to Moses concerning His Law to humanity, but I don't believe God told Moses to command us to kill in the name of God. Did Moses add to God's Law or someone did it after Moses' era to cover their crimes and to blame it on God? Moses didn't change God's Word; someone did it to achieve their goals and to cover their dirty crimes.

God didn't command His people to kill the unbelievers in the name of God Yahweh or allah. The mighty God that created this world and the universes is capable to judge sinners and to remove people from certain lands and give it to which He wishes. If God commanded us to kill in His name, why He commended us NOT to kill in the same book? Would you believe God is commanding you to kill to please him? If God is the ultimate and righteous judge, why he is hiring us to judge for Him instead? If God wants us to be perfect according to His righteous commandments why would He commands us to kill? Do you believe God wants to teach you how to kill and to be a sinner? God announced His Law to make us perfect and live in harmony. How could we have Love if we are killing our neighbors that sinned against God and against us? Are we God to judge sinners? If we are permitted to judge sinners, we have to judge ourselves for committing such crimes.

God is allowed to judge people because He is the Creator, and He is capable to insure righteous judgment.

Why God gave salvation to Jacob and His descendants only, excluding the rest of the people on this planet earth? If we consider that the Torah is God's Word to kill people, it means the koran = (quran) is allah's word also. However, the koran = (quran) prohibits the moslems = (muslims) to fight human being; but the same koran = (quran) permits the moslems = (muslims) to fight the unbelievers in allah and in his prophet mohamed. It means both books prohibit killing human being; but the same books command the people to kill the unbelievers for the lands' and for taxes. Should we kill to please God?

Or should we obey His peaceful commandments to be righteous. How do we signify righteousness, is it by killing or through peace. If we kill to achieve peace, it means that we are worshipping a strange god. Then, how could we defense our selves without killing? I am not God to answer such question, however, Jesus Christ commands us to forgive the enemies and let God judges them "including sinners".

How long should we wait for justice. God decides, He is the absolute and the righteous judge, not us.

The following text explains how and when God allows high priests, judges, or Moses to judge according to the Torah.

I am human, I can't kill in the name of God, and I can't judge or kill as God. God is the creator, He is perfect, and we can't test God. Judging people according to the Torah through Moses or the high priests require certain rules. God inspired Moses to write the Torah. Inspired person shouldn't make mistake while this person is under God's inspiration. God didn't inspire Moses all the times of his life because he transgressed against God once. Was Moses inspired by God when he wrote the Torah? Yes; but some people twisted God's Word in the Torah. According to Jesus' gospel, Jesus didn't deny Moses' Law, which proves the accuracy of the Torah. However, are we reading the actual Torah that Moses wrote? I don't believe so. I believe Moses' Law that he spoke under God's inspiration is accurate because Jesus confirmed it. The Torah that is in the bible is the only doctrines that exist in this era. We don't know what happened to the actual Torah after Moses' era. The only thing that God wrote by his finger is the Ten Commandments. If you have any complaint or question, pray, God would answer your prayer. For more information about Moses' Law and Jesus, refer to page "Jesus spoke about Moses".

During Moses' era, God allowed Moses or the high priest to judge people in certain crimes. This kind of judgment remained active till the theocracy system in Judah and in Israel. It was valid until the children of Israel asked Joshua for a king to judge over them, "monocracy, or monarch system". Then, God forsake His people in many categories. It was impossible to apply the Torah with monarch's law on people. Monocracy or monarch's law allows kings and judges to judge people instead God's judgment through Moses or the high priests. God doesn't permit human being to kill; therefore, God announced His Law the "Torah" excluding the violent commandments. Nevertheless, even in the twentieth first century, many countries legalize the death penalty. Was Moses permitted to judge people to death according to the Torah's Law? I believe Moses is a messenger, not God. God the creator insures righteous judgment without errors.

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E - Could we defend our selves without committing crime and how?

Usually, human being is in the defense state in all circumstances constantly. Could anyone kill in defense's state? God is capable to insure safety to human being. However, God recognizes our actions and our thought contently, but we think that He doesn't interfere all the times in this world and with our daily routines. Since God created this world, He didn't interfere to stop murderess, robbers, transgressors, and wars for a reason. In reality, God knows everything and He is capable to stop and to permit as He wishes. However, God gave us the freedom to choose "good" OR "evil". We think God does interfere in certain events, and if we do, we don't know when and how. We must protect our bodies that God trusted us with; however, we should protect others as well. In certain self defense, we are obliged to use forces and certain arms to protect our selves. However, Jesus commanded us differently, he commanded us to forgive and let go for the sake of others even with the enemies. There is one passage in the book of Luke, Jesus commands his disciples to sell their garments to buy swords. Was Jesus aiming on defense or attack? Probably, Jesus meant it in defense because he knew that he was leaving them; therefore, he told them to be on their own. After Jesus rose from the dead, he had appeared to them and told them that he would send the Holy spirit to them for protection and to guide them.

This kind of defense doesn't consider crime. However, Jesus contradicts such statement to a certain level. Jesus commands us to forgive and to love our enemies. In this commandment, Jesus didn't explain how and when. Jesus accepted to be crucified according to his father God's will. Jesus did protect himself many times when the Jews and the Pharisees tried to kill him. Joseph and Mary his mother ran to Egypt to save their child Jesus. However, Jesus commands the people to sell their garments to buy swords. Jesus didn't identify why those swords should be bought for. The disciples told Jesus that they had two swards, Jesus said: it is enough. Jesus stopped Peter from slaying the Pharisees when they were arresting him. Therefore, we don't know the meaning of possessing those two swords because Jesus refused to be used that night in the act of defense. It is possible; Jesus meant to be used after his ascension to heaven. The disciples were left alone. Nevertheless, Jesus appeared to them and told them that he will be with them and the Holy Spirit will protect theme. Therefore, it isn't understood why those swords meant for, Luke 22:35 to 38. This event is mentioned in the book of Luke only. Luke wasn't of Jesus' disciples, which indicates that Luke wasn't present when Jesus was arrested. The book of Luke is not accurate because it was written by the same author that wrote the book of Acts. Luke didn't write those books. Paul did. For more information about the false apostle Paul, refer to page "False apostles" page "Acts and Luke" and page "Ishmael and Isaac".

The passage of Luke 22:35 to 38, reads [35 When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, did you want anything? 36 But they said: Nothing. Then said he [Jesus] unto them: But now he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a scrip; and he that hath not, let him sell his coat, and buy a sword. 37 For I say to you, that this that is written must yet be fulfilled in me: And with the wicked was he reckoned. For the things concerning me have an end. 38 But they said: Lord, behold here are two swords. And he said to them, It is enough, Luke 22:35 to 38.]

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1:a - Eye for eye, and kill in the name of God

 

Jesus says: [38 You have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. 39 But I say to you not to resist evil: but if one strikes thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other, Matthew 5:38 to 39.]

 

(God's Word through Moses): 17 Thou shall not hate thy brother in thy heart, but reprove him openly, lest thou incur sin through him. 18 Seek not revenge, nor be mindful of the injury of thy citizens. Thou shall love thy friend as thyself. I am the Lord, Leviticus 19:17 to 18.

Jesus warned us about false prophets; however, Jesus didn't contradict God's Law that is the Torah, which was announced by Moses. On the contrary, Jesus commands us to obey God's peaceful Law of the Torah in full, without removing one dot of the Law, Matthew 5:17 to 18.

The above three passages indicate the accuracy and the peaceful commandments in the Torah; however, where the killing's commandments in the bible came from? Are we reading the same Torah of Jesus' era?

During Jesus' era, Jesus spoke peace and reviled revenge. Jesus confirmed the accuracy and the peaceful commandments of the Torah = (God's Law). If Jesus spoke peacefully about the Torah and God's Law, why the Torah contains violent commandments?

For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants", page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

The killings commandments in the name of God are in the Torah, the prophetic books of the bible, and in the koran = (quran) also. God's Word through Moses and Jesus tells us that we shouldn't kill and we should love all mankind including the strangers and the enemies as ourselves, Leviticus 19:17 to 18, Matthew 22:36 to 39. However, Moses and Joshua = (Josue) command differently in other passages, they command the people to kill in the name of God. However, the Jews follow the Torah, not the prophetic books, which is right. The Torah is God's Law that we should obey. The prophetic books prophesied in the name of God about catastrophic events, warnings, destructions in the name of God, and recommendations. Nevertheless, I am aiming my explanation about the Torah. The Torah commands the people to kill in the name of God, Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 17:5 to 7, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11, Deuteronomy 21:20 to 23, Deuteronomy 22:20 to 24, Numbers 14:8 to 10, Numbers 15:32 to 36, Numbers 35:16 to 17.

The bible indicates many incidents, which command to kill people in the name of God to possess lands and for religious and politics objectives. It is not explainable to our knowledge how God permitted His people to commit such crimes.

Did God really command the people to kill through His prophets? Personally, I am not God to answer such question, but I believe God wouldn't command His people to commit such crimes. However, the bible indicates about many prophets that transgressed God. The book of Deuteronomy 31:3, tells us that Moses spoke in the name of God that "the Lord God would destroy those nations for His chosen people".

It reads: The Lord thy God then will pass over before thee: he will destroy all these nations in thy sight, and thou shall possess them: and this Josue = (Joshua) shall go over before thee, as the Lord hath spoken, Deuteronomy 31:3.

Moses spoke in the name of God that the Lord God would destroy those nations; Moses didn't say the Lord God would help them to destroy those nations. However, Joshua = (Josue) and the chosen people destroyed those nations to possess their lands. God kills in righteous judgment, but when man kills, he commits a crime through ignorant judgment. God's Word tells us: [God is the judge who destroys flesh and spirit]. Therefore, the sinners should fear God for his righteous judgment, and the righteous should love God for his Love and His righteousness.

Jesus says: And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell, Matthew 10:28.

 

God is capable to do what ever He wants; He doesn't need any help from man. The creator doesn't need the creature; the creature needs his creator.

 

For more information about the prophets' errors, refer to page "Prophets and apostles sinned also" or page "False apostles".

 

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1:1 - Who is authorized to condemn people to death according to the Torah?

If Moses is permitted to judge and condemns sinners to death, we wouldn't need God. If the people are justified and judged through Moses, the sinners don't have to offer any sacrifices to obtain forgiveness from the mighty God. And the Christians don't need Jesus to redeem them.

Jesus prohibited anyone to kill and revenge in all circumstances. If the Torah contained such crimes in God's name during Jesus' era, Jesus wouldn't command us to obey the Torah. Jesus didn't come to destroy God's Law (that God announced to Moses), Matthew 5:17 to 19, Matthew 19:17. It means Moses' Law doesn't permit sinners or imperfect person to condemn sinners to death. The death penalties that are in the Torah were added to the Torah' after Jesus' era. God would never permit His people to kill. The god that permits his people to kill is not God.

The moslems = (muslims) had copied from the violent commandments of the Torah and Jesus' gospel the wrong commandments to start new religion during 666 AD. They had twisted the scriptures in the most fascinated way to establish a violent religion to kill the Jews and the Christians.

For more information, refer to page "Islamic and bible verses".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

 Who is "was" authorized to condemn people to death, the Jews, Christians, or the Muslims? Non, God condemns sinners.

3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman taken in adultery: and they set her in the midst, 4 And said to him: Master, this woman was even now taken in adultery. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us to stone such a one. But what sayest thou? 6 And this they said tempting him, that they might accuse him. But Jesus = (Yeshua) bowing himself down, wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again stooping down, he wrote on the ground. 9 But they hearing this, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest. And Jesus = (Yeshua) alone remained, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 Then Jesus = (Yeshua) lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee? 11 Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus = (Yeshua) said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more. Bible John 8:7 to 11.

It means, sinners including priests and judges can't judge other sinners to death according to the Torah's Law and to Jesus' word. According to Jesus' word, God is the only person that is permitted to judge and to condemn sinners to death through His righteous judgment. Did God inspire Moses during his judgment to condemn sinners? Yes, but didn't permit him to kill. Moses was not perfect because he transgressed God. If Moses is permitted to judge and condemns sinners to death, we wouldn't need God. If the people are justified and judged through Moses, the sinners don't have to offer any sacrifice to obtain forgiveness from the mighty God. If the people are justified and judged through Moses, it shall be no last judgment.

Moses transgressed God when he had lifted up his hand, and struck the rook twice with the rod, there came forth water in great abundance, so that the people and their cattle drank, And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron: Because you have not believed me, to sanctify me before the children of Israel, you shall not bring these people into the land, which I will give them. This is the Water of contradiction, where the children of Israel strove with words against the Lord, and he was sanctified in them, Numbers 20:11 to 13.

Was this incident the cause that prohibited Moses from entering the Promised Land? I donít know, the bible indicates so. I am not God to judge Moses, but I find it abnormal to deprave Moses from entering the Promised Land after with what all he did to the children of Israel for such incident.

According to some passages in the Torah, Moses was depraved to enter the Promised Land. These passages depraved Ishmael and his descendants, and Esau as well.

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".]

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1:2 - Jesus didn't permit sinners Priest and Pharisees to condemn sinner to death.

If sinners are not permitted to stone sinners to death, why God issued this commandment in the Torah?

Actually, Moses was perfect to certain limit. I don't know why this kind of punishment exists in the Torah, if imperfect person is not permitted to persecute sinners to death, this law shouldn't be in the Torah. Judges and high priests are entitled to judge people for certain crimes, not to condemn them to death.

In the beginning, God announced one commandment to Adam and his wife in the Garden of Eden. Then, God added to His Law gradually. God permitted Moses to allow divorce. Jesus prohibited divorce, unless adultery is involved. When Jesus spoke about divorce, the people complained because it is in the law. Then, Jesus answered: [Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives, but from the beginning, it was not so, Matthew 19:8 to 9]

Did God permit Moses to stone murderers and adulterers during that era? Moses was permitted to do many things to certain limit because he was human, not God. Moses wasn't permitted to kill sinners. The violent commandments were added to the Torah after Moses' era. God sent Jesus to explain God's Law that was announced to Moses. Jesus didn't contradict God's Law during his era. Why Jesus didn't mention about the Torah's violent passages in his gospel? Is Jesus' attack to the Pharisees was a warning for the Torah's violent passages?

Does the Torah condemn sinners by stoning to death? This kind of sentence wasn't in the Torah during Jesus' era, therefore Jesus contradicted.

Jesus didnít contradict Godís Law; he denied this judgment because he knew that those Pharisees were sinners also. Therefore, no one answered Jesus when he said: [any of you without sin though the first stone.] They didn't answer Jesus because this sentence is not in the Law. If this sentence were in the Law, the Pharisees would have complained to Jesus as they did when he spoke about divorce because Moses had permitted them to divorce.

The capital punishment wasn't in the Torah. If no one is perfect to condemn sinners to death, to whom this commandment was announced to issue such judgment.

The following eight passages indicate the death penalty for sinners in the Torah. If those commandments were in the Torah during Jesus' era, Jesus would have told us so. Jesus didn't contradict the Torah because it didn't contain violent. The Torah that contains violent passages permitted the people to commit many crimes in the name of God Yahweh. Jesus spoke the truth about God's Law in the Torah in Matthew 5:17 to 19.

The passage reads: [If any man commit adultery with the wife of another, and defile his neighbor's wife, let then: be put to death, both the adulterer and the adulteress, Leviticus 20:10.]

The passage reads: [5 Thou shalt bring forth the man or the woman, who have committed that most wicked thing, to the gates of thy city, and they shall be stoned. 6 By the mouth of two or three witnesses shall he die that is to be slain. Let no man be put to death, when only one bears witness against him. 7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to kill him, and afterwards the hands of the rest of the people: that thou may take away the evil out of the midst of thee, Deuteronomy 17:5 to 7.]

The passage reads: [6 If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou love as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou know not, nor thy fathers, 7 Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other, 8 Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him, 9 But thou shalt presently put him to death. It Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people. 10 With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage: 11 That all Israel hearing may fear, and may do no more any thing like this, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11.]

The passage reads: [20 And shall say to them: This our son is rebellious and stubborn, he slight hearing our admonitions, he gives himself to reveling, and to debauchery and banqueting: 21 The people of the city shall stone him: and he shall die, that you may take away the evil out of the midst of you, and all Israel hearing it may be afraid. 22 When a man hath committed a crime for which he is to be punished with death, and being condemned to die is hanged on a gibbet: 23 His body shall not remain upon the tree, but shall be buried the same day: for he is accursed of God that hangs on a tree: and thou shalt not defile thy land, which the Lord thy God shall give thee in possession, Deuteronomy 21:20 to 23.]

The passage reads: [20 But if what he charged her with be true, and virginity be not found in the damsel: 21 They shall cast her out of the doors of her father's house, and the men of the city shall stone her to death, and she shall die: because she hath done a wicked thing in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: and thou shalt take away the evil out of the midst of thee. 22 If a man lie with another man's wife, they shall both die, that is to say, the adulterer and the adulteress: and thou shalt take away the evil out of Israel. 23 If a man have espoused a damsel that is a virgin, and some one find her in the city, and lie with her, 24 Thou shalt bring them both out to the gate of that city, and they shall be stoned: the damsel, because she cried not out, being in the city: the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor's wife. And thou shalt take away the evil from the midst of thee, Deuteronomy 22:20 to 24.]

The passage reads: [8 If the Lord be favorable, he will bring us into it, and give us a land flowing with milk and honey. 9 Be not rebellious against the Lord: and fear ye not the people of this land, for we are able to eat them up as bread. All aid is gone from them: the Lord is with us, fear ye not. 10 And when all the multitude cried out, and would have stoned them, the glory of the Lord appeared over the tabernacle of the covenant to all the children of Israel, Numbers 14:8 to 10.]

The passage reads: [32 And it came to pass, when the children of Israel were in the wilderness, and had found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, 33 That they brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole multitude. 34 And they put him into prison, not knowing what they should do with him. 35 And the Lord said to Moses: Let that man die, let all the multitude stone him without the camp. 36 And when they had brought him out, they stoned him, and he died as the Lord had commanded, Numbers 15:32 to 36.]

The passage reads: [16 If any man strike with iron, and he die that was struck : he shall be guilty of murder, and he himself shall die. 17 If he throw a stone, and he that is struck die: he shall be punished in the same manner, Numbers 35:16 to 17.]

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1:3 - The Torah is God's precious Word. Would you kill if the Torah commands you to kill?

God's Ten Commandments and Jesus Christ prohibit killing. It means, any book, religion, or prophet commands people to kill in the name of God, this religion, prophets, and gods are false. Jesus didn't contradict the Torah in all aspects.

I don't kill because God's commandment tells me to kill in the Torah or in the koran = (quran). I am not contradicting the Torah and the koran = (quran); I am obeying the peaceful Word of God. The koran = (quran)'s commandments concerning the killings and the violence were taken from the Torah but twisted in bizarre way to kill the Jews and the Christians. Therefore, there are many events and many Hebrew prophetsí names are mentioned in the koran = (quran), which were copied from the Torah and Jesus' gospel. Accordingly, both books encourage violent to kill in the name of God. Jesus' gospel contradicts such violent commandments.

Why Jesusí peaceful gospel doesnít contain violent as the Torah and the koran = (quran)? Why Jesus spoke about Godís peaceful Law of the Torah, which contradicts the Torah that we are reading and the koran = (quran)?

For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

Did God command Moses to judge sinners? In the Torah, God fought for His people, which I find it normal when God interfere in righteous judgment. We shouldn't kill because the Torah and the koran = (quran) command us to overcome lands or to judge sinners. The following passage indicates how God fought for His people without the help of His people. God judges through righteous judgment because He is perfect. However, the Torah indicates that the Hebrew people were fighting and killing people in the name of God also. Who is fighting who, and why people are killing if God is judging sinners?

Moses said: [28 Whither shall we go up? the messengers have terrified our hearts, saying: The multitude is very great, and taller than we: the cities are great, and walled up td the sky, we have seen the sons of the Enacims = (Anakims) = (giants) there. 29 And I said to you: Fear not, neither be ye afraid of them: 30 The Lord God, who is your leader, himself will fight for you, as he did in Egypt in the sight of all,] Deuteronomy 1:28 to 30.

[Note: The word "Anakim" refer to the people of Anak and to "people with long neck" and giants. The word "Anak" in Arabic means "Neck" or tall people with long neck.]

If God judge evil people, why do we have to fight and kill those sinners?

The following passages indicate how Moses, Joshua, and David, killed and commanded to kill people in the name of God.

However, Moses permitted the Hebrew people to kill children and women. The passage reads: [33 And the Lord our God delivered him to us: and we slew him with his sons and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, killing the inhabitants of them, men and women and children. We left nothing of them: 35 except the cattle which came to the share of them that took them: and the spoils of the cities, which we took,] Deuteronomy 2:33 to 35.

David killed hundreds of Palestinian men to marry Saul's daughter. The passage reads: [27 And after a few days David rose up, and went with the men that were under him, and he slew of the Philistines = (Philistim) = (Palestine) = (Palestinians) two hundred men, and brought their foreskins and numbered them out to the king, that he might be his son in law. Saul therefore gave him Michol = (Michal) his daughter to wife,] First Samuel 18:27.

 It means David killed to marry Michol =Michal), not for God's sake.

Did God kill those women and children alone or He was with His people fighting? I don't know, the scripture says they were fighting because God delivered them to them. However, it doesn't say if God delivered the women and the children to them. It means, Moses and his men killed the children and the women without God's permission. Did God kill those men, women, and children because they were of the Enacims = (Anakims) = (giants') race, which are evil.

[Note: The word "Anakim" refer to the people of Anak and to "people with long neck" and giants. The word "Anak" in Arabic means "Neck" or tall people with long neck.]

The following chapter of Deuteronomy 3:1, says it differently, it reads: [1 Then we turned and went by the way of Basan: and Og the king of Basan = (Bashan) came out to meet us with his people to fight in Edrai, Deuteronomy 3:1]

God commanded the Children of Israel to kill the king of Og, the king of Basan = (Bashan) and his people. These people aren't of the giants' race, why God had ordered to kill them? We don't know. The children of Israel have to pass through those cities to reach the Promised Land, which obliged them to fight in according to pass. Therefore, they had to kill because those people wouldn't let them pass. However, if they had to kill to pass, WHY THEY HAD TO KILL THE WOMEN AND THE CHILDREN? Moreover, why the children of Isral had to take their goods? Women and children don't fight. The children of Israel claimed that they took their good for their victims. It means, they wanted ransoms for their victims. Something is wrong? If those people were evil and they had to kill them to pass, why they had to kill the children? If those people were possessed and from the giants' race, which God wanted to destroy, why the Israelites had to take their goods (gold, silvers, and animals)? If those people are evil and unclean, their goods and animals are unclean also. The children of Israel shouldn't have touched goods that belong to evil people. However, God didn't command them to kill in His name.

Biblically, we shouldn't possess bloods' monies.

When Judas repented after he betrayed Jesus, he gave back 30 pieces of silver to the high priests in the temple. The high priests refused to keep the silvers in the temple's treasury because it was blood moneys. Therefore, they purchased a land for the strangers to bury their dead. It was defiled to keep goods that belong to ungodly people. It means: the blood moneys were refused to be in the temple or for the priests to possess; therefore they purchased a land for the strangers, not for the Jews. Therefore, I find it abnormal for God to permit the Jews to kill men, women, and children to keep their lands, gold, and silvers. But, the Pharisees reused to keep Judas' thirty pieces of silver. Wrong, one event contradicts the other; God would never permit such crimes.

The passage reads: [4 Saying: I have sinned in betraying innocent blood. But they said: What is that to us? look thou to it. 5 And casting down the pieces of silver in the temple, he departed: and went and hanged himself with an halter. 6 But the chief priests having taken the pieces of silver, said: It is not lawful to put them into the corbona = (treasury of the temple), because it is the price of blood. 7 And after they had consulted together, they bought with them the potter's field, to be a burying place for strangers,] Matthew 27:5 to 7.

They killed men, women, and children in sixty cities because God allowed them to do so. It reads: [4 Wasting all his cities at one time, there was not a town that escaped us: sixty cities, all the country of Argob the kingdom of Og in Basan. 5 All the cities were fenced with very high walls, and with gates and bars, be- sides innumerable towns that had no walls. 6 And we totally destroyed them, as we had done to Sehon the king of Hesebon, destroying every city, men and women and children: 7 But the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for our victims,] Deuteronomy 3:4 to 7.

The passage in Deuteronomy 3:22 says: Fear them not: for the Lord your God will fight for you.

It means when the children of Israel were fighting, God was killing all these people for them. Did God really say it or Moses invented. I believe God inspired Moses with His Word; however, Moses transgressed God few times, and killed an Egyptian when he was living in Egypt. Therefore, we don't know which commandment of Moses that God had inspired him with. Moses didn't attack; if Moses didn't, who did it?

Are the giants the descendants of Cain and Esau? For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

 

The passage in Deuteronomy 1:28 to 30 tells us God killed the Enacims = (Anakims) = (giants), which are Cain's race that is excluded from Adam's generation. Cain killed his brother Abel. The giants are Cain's race and the descendants of the daughters of men, which considerer evil people; therefore, God flooded the world during Noah's era. However, this flood didn't help because the giants' race transferred through Noah's sons' wives, two of them were of the daughters of men. For more information about the daughters of men, refer to page "Giants" and "Gog and Magog".

Did God really spoke this word? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: The word "Anakim" refer to the people of Anak and to "people with long neck" and giants. The word "Anak" in Arabic means "Neck" or tall people with long neck.]

The passage reads:  [1 And after that men began to be multiplied upon the earth, and daughters were born to them. 2 The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took themselves wives of all which they chose. 3 And God said: My Spirit shall remain in man for ever, because he is flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. 4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in (slept) with the daughters of men, they brought forth children, these are the mighty men that their names were renown from the old time. 5 And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times, 6 It repented him that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart, 7 He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repents me that I have made them,] Genesis 6:1 to 7.

When the people of Israel asked Joshua for a king to rule over them, God forsake them. Moses use to judge sinners under God's inspiration; however, the killing's commandment wasn't in the Torah during Moses' time. God's Word in the Torah tells us: [seek not revenge] Leviticus 19:17 to 18. God doesn't allow His people to commit such crimes because He detests revenge and sin. God is capable to judge and to kill those that deserve death in righteous judgment.

The book of Jeremiah = (Jeremias) 21:4 indicates: God would fight the Chaldeans = (Chaldaeans) by himself. This passage tells us that God is capable to fight without human help.

Why human has to kill in the name of God or for God if God is capable to do it on his own. If God commands us NOT to seek revenge, why God commands us to kill people to take their lands, and to kill sinners that transgress against Him? Are we serving God who needs us to do His judgment, why doesn't He judge sinners without our helps? Are we worshipping God or satan?

The following passage explains God's capability to kill sinners alone. The passage reads: Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Behold I will turn back the weapons of war that are in your hands, with which you fight against the king of Babylon, and the Chaldeans = (Chaldaeans), that besiege you round about the walls: and I will gather them together in the midst of this city. 5 And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand, and with a strong arm, and in fury, and in indignation, and in great wrath. 6 And I will strike the inhabitants of this city, men and beasts shall die of a great pestilence, Jeremiah 21:4. [Jeremiah = (Jeremias)]

God killed all the creatures on this planet earth by the flood during Noah's era without human help. God burned Sodom and Gomorrha = (Gomorrah) without human help. God killed the first born in human and in animal in Egypt during Moses' era without human help. Therefore, the people can't pretend God commands them to kill in His name. God doesn't want us to commit such crimes or to take God's place. God announced His Law to guide people through righteousness and to teach them to be perfect and righteous, not to be evil. Therefore, the killing's commandments in the name of God in the bible and in the koran = (quran) are not logic.

It is clear and perfect, in this passage, God judged evil by himself, and He didn't command man to kill and to commit crimes. God announced His Law, and He commanded us "NOT TO KILL".

Did you get it or you have to think about it.

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1:4 - David killed a man, and God Killed David's Son for David's crime

The following passage tells us God condemned David and allowed the people to transgress to achieve His judgment. I find it abnormal to recognize God in such aggressive character. Couldn't God judge David without making the people fall in sin to rape David's wives in public? And why God had to kill David's son to punish David. Since when, the sons pay for the fathers' errors? "WRONG"

The passage reads: 7 And Nathan said to David: Thou art the man. Thus said the Lord the God of Israel: I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee from the hand of Saul, 8 And gave thee thy master's house and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and Juda = (Judah): and if these things be little, I shall add far greater things unto thee. 9 Why therefore hast thou despised the word of the Lord, to do evil in my sight? Thou hast killed Urias the Hethite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10 Therefore the sword shall never depart from thy house, because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Urias the Hethite to be thy wife. 11 Thus said the Lord: Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy eyes I and give them to thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun, 12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing in the sight of all Israel, and in the sight of the sun, Second Samuel 12:7 to 12.

I don't kill in the name of God. God is capable to do it without our helps. I don't understand how God permitted David's neighbor to commit such act. The book of Second Samuel doesn't indicate if David wives were raped as God prophesied. It may have a symbolic meaning, example: [David will be defeated by his enemies' neighbors,]. This conversation had happened between David and Nathan. God was involved in this conversation. However, we don't know if God spoke personally to David or Nathan spoke in the name of God. In verse 11, God is not speaking directly to David. It says: [Thus said the Lord], it doesn't say, [the Lord spoke to David saying.] In verse 13 to 15, says that David spoke to Nathan, and Nathan answered David directly saying: [The Lord also hath taken away thy sin: thou shall not die.] This verse proves Nathan was speaking to David in the name of God. Was Nathan mistaken? We don't know, however, Nathan said: God forgive David and shall not die, but the child would die instead. And the child really died as Nathan had said it in the name of God. It means David's wives were not raped as it says because God forgave David, but God killed his son instead the punishment. This condemnation is in greater confusion than the others. Why the child has to die instead David? "Wrong"

David sinned, and he must be punished, not his wives or his child. We don't know why God didn't' Judge David in such harsh judgment. It says that after the death of his child, David slept with his wife and God gave them a child, and David named him Solomon. God loved and blessed Solomon. Nevertheless, God regretted His blessing to Solomon because he went after ungodly women. Solomon had seven hundreds ungodly wives. Solomon offered sacrifices to idols with his wives. However, the newborn doesn't eliminates the harshly judgment that killed David's son.

The passage reads: 13 And David said to Nathan: I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said to David: The Lord also hath taken away thy sin: thou shall not die. 14 Nevertheless, because thou hast given occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, for this thing, the child that is born to thee, shall surely die. 15 And Nathan returned to his house. The Lord also struck the child which the wife of Urias had borne to David, and his life was despaired of, Second Samuel 12:14 to 15.

We shouldn't kill or commit suicide. God gave us our bodies to protect, not to abhor, and not destroy. There are ways and limits in defending our selves. Forgiveness is the most magnificent component of God's Law. Moses and Jesus command us to forgive. God's forgiveness and mercy is enormous, however, God's grace isn't limited, however, God limits this grace to achieve righteousness and to protect innocents, and to ensure safe world. Therefore, we should forgive our enemies and those that hate us. Jesus preached love and forgiveness also.

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1:5 - Jesus commanded us to get swords to protect our selves.

Jesus commanded us to protect our selves after he left this planet earth. Jesus preached love and forgiveness; the lawless people rejected Jesus because they abhorred peace. It was impossible to convert people from their wicked ways. They crucified the Son of God Jesus Christ. Therefore, there is nothing that we could do to insure peace in this world. The son of God Jesus couldn't promote peace in this world; therefore, prophets and teachers couldn't lead humanity to peaceful world.

Before Jesus got arrested, he gathered with his disciples that evening and told them that he is leaving them and they should defend themselves. He told them to sell their coats = (garments) to buy swords.

It reads: 35 When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, did you want anything? 36 But they said: Nothing. Then said he unto them: But now he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a scrip; and he that hath not, let him sell his coat, and buy a sword. 37 For I say to you, that this that is written must yet be fulfilled in me: And with the wicked was he reckoned. For the things concerning me have an end. 38 But they said: Lord, behold here are two swords. And he said to them, It is enough, Luke 22:35 to 38.

Jesus accepted 2 swords to defend twelve disciples. It means the two swords were used to defend and not to attack because it would take more than two swords to be in the attack status against the ungodly. However, Jesus didn't permit them to use those swords when he got arrested. The defense's commandment was issued for them to obey after His death and resurrection. Therefore, Jesus stopped his disciple from slaughtering the servant of the high priest that evening.

 

It reads:  51 And behold one of them that were with Jesus = (Yeshua), stretching forth his hand, drew out his sword: and striking the servant of the high priest, cut off his ear. 52 Then Jesus = (Yeshua) saith to him: Put up again thy sword into its place: for all that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Think thou that I cannot ask my Father, and he will give me presently more than twelve legions of angels? 54 How then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that so it must be done? Matthew 26:51 to 54.

Jesus said that he came not for peace; he meant that the people would fight for his name's sake. Therefore, there are divisions in the same congregation for Christís name. Protestants kill Catholics, and moslems = (muslims) kill Christians. Jews hate Christians because they believe Jesus is the Messiah, and Christians hate Jews because they crucified Jesus. In reality, the Iranian Pharisees that pretend to be Jews had crucified Jesus, not the native Jews. The word Pharisees refers to "Pharis", which means "Persia" "Phersia". The word "Pharis" or "Paris" is Arabic and a Hebrew word for ďPersiaĒ. The letters "P" in Hebrew language pronounces as "ph". After the Jews were exiled to Babylon and Assyria, the king of Persia had sent some Persians to Israel to conquer it and to learn the Torah to control Jerusalem and God's temple, not because they were righteous. Since then, those Persians who learned the Torah and the traditions of Judaism were named Pharisees because of their origin, which is "Pharis" = (Persia). Not many people know about the Pharisees; origin. Therefore, there are many orthodox Jews in Iran till this who live in dignity and honor because they are protected by the Iranian regime. Those orthodox Jews are the Iranian Pharisees that refuge in Jerusalem after the exile of the Jewish community to Babylon and to Assyria. Therefore, the orthodox Jews are in one accord with the Iranian regime till this day 2008. The orthodox Jews, "which of the Persian origin" are protesting the Zionists' regime in Israel for that cause.

For more information about the orthodox Jews and the Zionists Jews, refer to page "Zionist / orthodox".

The passage reads: Jesus said, [34 do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. 35 For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And as a man's enemies shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loves father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loves son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. 38 And he that takes not up his cross, and follow me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that finds his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for me, shall find it. 40 He that receives you, receives me: and he that receives me, receives him that sent me. 41 He that receives a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive the reward of a prophet: and he that receives a just man in the name of a just man, shall receive the reward of a just man. 42 And whosoever shall give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, amen I say to you, he shall not lose his reward,] Matthew 10:34 to 42.

God Said: If you do NOT observe my Commandments and my statutes that I commanded, you CURSE shall come upon you. Deuteronomy 28:15

Jesus quoted a scripture of God's Word from Leviticus: [Love your God from all your heart and from your entire mind and love your neighbor as thyself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments, Matthew 22:36 to 39.

God's Word in Leviticus: [15 Thou shalt not do that which is unjust, nor judge unjustly. Respect not the person of the poor, nor honour the countenance of the mighty. But judge thy neighbour according to justice. 16 Thou shalt not be a detractor nor a whisperer among the people. Thou shalt not stand against the blood of thy neighbour. I am the Lord. 17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart, but reprove him openly, lest thou incur sin through him. 18 Seek not revenge, nor be mindful of the injury of thy citizens. Thou shalt love thy friend as thyself. I am the Lord, Leviticus 19:15 to 18.]

However, God announced a similar commandment to the Hebrew people that he gave them the land of Canaan to refuge in it. In this commandment: God commands the Hebrew people to love the neighbors more than them selves, Deuteronomy 28:43. This commandment is similar but more difficult to obey than the one that Jesus commanded in Matthew 22:36 to 39 and of what God commanded in Leviticus 19:15 to 18. The commandment "Love your neighbor "AS" thyself" is in the Torah also. However, for the Hebrew that refuge in the land of Canaan must love the Canaanite neighbors "MORE" than them selves. It is obvious that the Hebrew must love the Canaanites more than themselves because God permitted them to overwhelm that land and to refuge in it. God commanded the Hebrew people to love the strangers that are in the land of Canaan also because the land of Canaan doesn't belong to the Hebrew people, it belongs to the Canaanites.

God's commandments to the Israelites are different than Jesus' commandments to his followers. Jesus commands us to love our God from all our hearts and from our entire minds and to love our neighbor AS our selves, Mark 12:31.

God commanded the Israelites to love their neighbors MORE than themselves.

Godís Word to His Chosen People reads: [THE STRANGER THAT IS WITH YOU SHALL GET UP ABOVE YOU VERY HIGH AND YOU SHALL COME DOWN VERY LOW, Deuteronomy 28:43.]

It means that the Hebrew people should love all mankind more than they should love themselves.

I am asking the Jews if the are obeying God's commandments. To keep your chosen privilege, you must obey God's commandments. If you don't, you lose this privilege and you shall be judged.

According to the Torah, the above scripture, God points His Word to His chosen people because He allowed them to overcome the Canaanites = (Chanaanites) and to take their lands.

God is pointing His commandment to the children of Israel for a specific area, which is Israel, it reads: "THE STRANGER THAT IS WITH YOU". It means: the stranger that are dwelling in Israel. Therefore, the Jews must love the strangers that dwell in Israel more than themselves.

The scripture in Deuteronomy 21:1, Moses spoke in the name of God concerning God's Law. He said: These are the precepts and judgments, that you must do in the land, which the Lord the God of thy fathers will give thee, to possess it all the days that thou shall walk upon the earth, Deuteronomy 12:1.

It means: the Jewish people must obey God's Commandments in full in according to dwell in the Promised Land Israel. If the Jews don't obey God's commandments, they would lose their heritages. For more information, refer to page "Chosen people" and "Strangers and chosen people"

God issued another commandment to the Jews and to the entire populations of this world through Jesus and Moses; it is to love your neighbor (all the people) as yourselves. Jesus says: no differences between relatives, neighbors, friends, and enemies, you must love them all equally.

Jesus = (Yeshua) says: Love, bless, and pray for your enemies. For God makes his sun rises on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust, Matthew 5:38 to 46.

(God's Word through Jesus): Jesus clarifies the meaning of "Love" in God's Law "Torah"; he says: love thy neighbors "AS" thy self, the neighbors are all the people in this world including the enemies, Matthew 22:36 to 39.

 

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1:5a - Did Jesus come to destroy God's Law and to start war instead peace?

 

Did Jesus really spoke uncertain commandments? Jesus didn't confuse anyone; the people are blinded by the god of this world. Some or all the Christians believe Jesus came to liberate them from God's Law. If this saying is true, it means Jesus is a sinner. However, the lawless people love to abound in sin; therefore, they follow Paul's heretic epistles. Jesus didn't come to break God's Law, he came to fulfill the Law. Even Jesus admitted in Matthew 5:17 that he is not against the Law, the lawless christians persist to abolish God's Law through Paul's heretic epistles. Jesus is not a sinners, Jesus came to save sinners from hell.

Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill, Matthew 5:17.
 
Jesus' present in this world, the people are divided in their believes, some followed evil and some followed God. Jesus said: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law,
Matthew 10:34.
 
Jesus said: I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I if it be already kindled,
Luke 12:49.
 Jesus said: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division,
Luke 12:51.
 Jesus said: I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive,
John 5:43.
 Jesus said: For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind,
John 9:39.
 Jesus said:
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly, John 10:10.
 Jesus said: I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness,
John 12:46.
 
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, this is a hard saying; who can hear it, John 6:61.

Jesus said: God sent His only begotten Son to this world to save it. However, in John 9:39 Jesus said that he came to judge. For sure, Jesus came to this world to save it, but the world rejected Jesus and God also.

According to the book of Luke, Jesus came to set fire in this world. Who wrote the book of Luke, was it Luke or Paul? Why the book of Luke describes Jesus as revolutionary man?

Jesus said: many shall hate you because of my name. Therefore, children hate their parents, and parents hate their children because of Jesus. The people are blaspheming God by rejecting God's Law. Protestants churches hate Catholics, mormons, and Jehovah witnesses. I attended the pentecostal protestant church in Montreal on St. Laurence Street for two years, all what I heard is hate and contradictions about other Christians. Protestant are killing in Jesus' name in England and worldwide as the moslems = (muslims) do kill in the name of allah.

Therefore, judgment must be issued for lawless people. The bible tells us that Jesus shall return to judge sinners. Even lawless christians shall be condemned also. Christianity is not a permission to abolish God's Law and to flourish in sin. If we disregard the violence that is in the koran = (quran), I find the moslems = (muslims) more obedient than the lawless christians that follow Paul's heretic epistles.

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1:5 B -  Does God revenge the children till the third and fourth generation and why? 

 

The passage of the Second commandment reads: [Thou shall not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth.

5 Thou shall not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me:

6 And showing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments]. Exodus 20:4 to 6

We all know God is Love and impossible for God to judge anyone irrationally.

If we all agree about this statement, it means we need an answer for the second commandment of the Ten Commandments. How could God judge the children if their fathers had sinned in previous generations?

If God going to judge the children according to their father's works, it means Salomon shouldn't be judged according to his rebellious by marrying 700 ungodly women because his father David was righteous. However, his father wasn't righteous either because he commanded to kill his commander's wife to marry her after. It means none is good and righteous in God and Jesus' sight. Jesus said: none is good, God is. According to the second commandment, all human races should be condemned to hell because all fathers had sinned.

Jesus did mention seven commandments, not ten. Jesus refused to accept that the children are punished according to their fathers' deeds. If my father is righteous and shall be in God's kingdom, I should be also even if I am flourishing in sin. I don't this theory either.

Jesus said: [1 And Jesus = (Yeshua) passing by, saw a man, who was blind from his birth: 2 And his disciples asked him: Rabbi, who hath sinned, this man, or his parents, that he should be born blind? 3 Jesus = (Yeshua) answered: Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents; but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. John 9:1 to 3

God's Word through His prophet Ezekiel: [1 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying: What is the meaning? 2 That you use among you this parable as a proverb in the land of Israel, saying: The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the teeth of the children are set on edge. 3 As I live, says the Lord God, this parable shall be no more to you a proverb in Israel. 4 Behold all souls are mine: as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, the same shall die. Ezekiel 18:1 to 4

God's Word through Ezekiel contradicts Moses' word through God's Ten Commandments. We all know God doesn't make mistakes. Man could err and fall in sin. However, did Moses err or Ezekiel? The Ten Commandments were written by God's finger, they weren't announced verbally or through inspiration. Jesus refused to accept such judgment; it means there is mystery behind this commandment. Biblically, Moses broke the first table of the Ten Commandments and he had to go up to the mountain to receive another. What happened then?

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1:6 - Did Jesus abolish or add to God's Law"? Did Moses transgress or add other laws to God's Law?

 

Jesus didn't add or abolish anything from God's Law. Jesus clarifies God's Law. They asked Jesus about divorce, Jesus said to them: 8 Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, commits adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, commits adultery, Matthew 19:8 to 9.

 

In this passage, Jesus explained that from the beginning, God didn't allow divorce, but because of the hardness of their hearts, Moses allowed them to do so. It means Jesus didn't add to God's Law. Jesus didn't violate the Sabbath day; he permitted them to do emergency works only on that day.

 

Did Moses act on his own without asking God concerning the divorce's law? God permitted Moses to issue oral law concerning the divorce.

I don't think Moses would command the people without Godís permission. However, "according to the TorahĒ Moses transgressed God once. Moses transgressed, not blasphemed. Moses didn't command the people to kill each other in God's name and permission.

We don't even know if Moses really killed a man. If Moses really killed a man, why God had chose a killer to be His prophet and the leader of his chosen people?

 

Jesus commanded us to obey God's Law the "Torah", which confirms the accuracy and the peaceful Torah. In Matthew 5:17 to 22, Jesus prohibited the people to remove one jot of the Law; he prohibited people to kill, and to curse friend or brother. Therefore, it is very difficult to believe that the Torah commands us NOT to kill in one scripture, and commands us to kill in other scriptures.

 

Jesus wouldn't command us to obey the Law if crimes and violent are permitted in God's name in the Torah.

 

The koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight in the name of allah because it contains the same commandments as the Torah.

The koran = (quran) confirms the accuracy of the Torah concerning killing the unbelievers, and concerning Jacob as the patriarch of Israel.

Did Jesus' gospel confirm Jacob as the patriarch of Israel during his era?

For more information about Jesus' gospel, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".

Are the giants the descendants of Cain and Esau? For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

Jesus said: 17 Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one title shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 He therefore that shall break one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, that unless your justice abound more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 21 You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not kill. And whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment. 22 But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire, Matthew 5:17 to 22.

Moses and his brother trespassed God, it reads: 11 And when Moses had lifted up his hand, and struck the rook twice with the rod, there came forth water in great abundance, so that the people and their cattle drank, 12 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron: Because you have not believed me, to sanctify me before the children of Israel, you shall not bring these people into the land, which I will give them. 13 This is the Water of contradiction, where the children of Israel strove with words against the Lord, and he was sanctified in them, Numbers 20:11 to 13.

According to some violent commandments that are in the Torah, God didn't allow Moses to lead the chosen people to the Promised Land Israel. If Moses invented laws on his own, Jesus would have told us so. I am not stating that the Torah that Jesus spoke of is wrong; I am stating that the actual Torah that we are reading at the present time contains violent passages.

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".]

 

During Mosesí era, the people were healed and protected through their prayers and offerings. God always appear to them in the clouds and spoke to their prophets constantly. During Moses' era, God permitted Moses to judge His people according to His Law, not to death. However, was Moses perfect without sin to judge sinners to death according to the Torah? The killing's commandment wasn't in the Torah during Moses' and Jesus' eras. Sinners can't condemn sinners. Jesus said: no one is perfect in this world, God is.

 

Therefore, Jesus said: whosoever without sin, throw the first stone. It means transgressors are not permitted to condemn sinners; blind can't lead another blind. There were no righteous priests, patriarchs, or judges to condemn sinners to death. It is very difficult to believe God permitted priests or judges to kill sinners. 

For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

 

Moses transgressed God; however, God forgave him because He permitted him to appear with Elijah to Jesus.

To read about God's prophets' errors, refer to page "Prophets and apostles sinned against God"

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 2 - Slaughtering people in the name of God:

The prophetic books of the bible mention about slaughtering people in the name of God. However, those books aren't from the Torah.

One of those books is the book of "First KingsĒ, this book tells us that the prophet Elijah = (Elias) killed false prophets by the sword. God took Elijah = (Elias) to heaven alive because he was righteous. Did God permit Elijah = (Elias) to kill? Was God capable to do such cleansing instead Elijah = (Elias). The Ten Commandments prohibits human being to kill another human being. There are many contradictions in the Torah and in Jesus' gospel. God's prophets should be righteous, not killer. How did Elijah kill 50 false prophets by the swords?

The following passage explains how Elijah = (Elias) killed the false prophets.

The scripture reads: [40 And Elias = (Elijah = (Elias)) said to them: Take the prophets of Baal, and let not one of them escape. And when they had taken them, Elias = (Elijah = (Elias) brought them down to the torrent Cison, and killed them there, First Kings 18:40.] Elijah slaughtered those false prophets on his own. However, in verse 36 Elijah prayed to God to help him perform a miracle to descending fires from heaven on the sacrifice's altar in the front of those false prophets. God heard Elijah = (Elias) and sent fires from heaven to show the false prophets that Elijah is His prophet. Right after this incident Elijah slaughtered those false prophets. The book of (First Kings) doesnít say God ordered Elijah = (Elias) to kill those prophets. Nevertheless, God helped Elijah to perform a miracle and NOT to kill. Unless God's commandments about killings those false prophets were not written in that book.

God ordered through His prophets to kill ungodly and wicked people in many prophetic books. However, how accurate those books are?

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3 - Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed in the name of God in the Torah:

The following text explains how Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed in the name of God in the Torah. 

The Torah is the first five books in the bible. The authors of those books are not identified. The archeologists and the religious believe that those books were written by Moses. However, the author in those books is describing Moses, which confirms Moses is the described person, not the author.

However, there is one passage in the prophetic book indicates that the Torah was written by Moses.

The passage reads: 13 But over them that carried burdens for divers uses, were scribes, and masters of the number of the Levites, and porters. 14 Now when they carried out the money that had been brought into the temple of the Lord, Helcias the priest found the book of the law of the Lord, by the hand of Moses. 15 And he said to Saphan the scribe: I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord: and he delivered it to him. 16 But he carried the book to the king, and told him, saying: Lo, all that thou hast committed to thy servants, is accomplished. 17 They have gathered together the silver that was found in the house of the Lord: and it is given to the overseers of the artificers, and of the workmen, for divers works. 18 Moreover Helcias the priest gave me this book. And he read it before the king. 19 And when he had heard the words of the law, he rent his garments: 20 And he commanded Helcias, and Ahicam the son of Saphan, and Abdon the son of Micha = (Micah), and Saphan the scribe, and Asaa the king's servant, saying: 21Go, and pray to the Lord for me, and for the remnant of Israel, and Juda = (Judah), concerning all the words of this book, which is found: for the great wrath of the Lord hath fallen upon us, because our fathers have not kept the words of the Lord, to do all things that are written in this book. 22 And Helcias and they that were sent with him by the king, went to Olda the prophetess, the wife of Sellum the son of Thecuath, the son of Hasra keeper of the wardrobe: who dwelt in Jerusalem in the Second part: and they spoke to her the words above mentioned, Second Chronicles 34:13 to 22.

However, Jesus confirms in the book of Mark that Moses has a book, he said: Have you not read the BOOK OF MOSES, God said: I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB.) Mark 12:26. This scripture is mentioned in the book of Exodus 3:6 also.

[Note: God the creator is the God of all mankind; He isn't God of Abraham; Isaac; and Jacob only. This passage indicates that God created this world for Abraham's, Isaac's, and Jacob's descendants only.]

Why the bible indicates that Esau's women are from the wicked generation of Cain?

It is enough evidence that the book of Exodus is written by Moses. Jesus named it the book of Moses because it was written by Moses that was inspired by God. The above passages of Mark 12:26 and Exodus 3:6 are missing the name of Ishmael. I don't think Jesus would forget to mention the name of Ishmael. However, Jesus believes and knows that God is God of all mankind, not God of Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, and Jacob ONLY.

The passages that indicate about the killing in the name of God in those books = (the Torah) is unexplainable. There are some incidents where Moses and Joshua = (Josue) spoke in the name of God to kill elderly, women, and children to cleanse the land. The bible indicates that those people were ungodly and evil, which were related to the giants' race that descent from Cain who killed his brother Abel. For more information, refer to page "Giants".

Wasn't God able to destroy those evil people? I believe God is capable to do so, He created them, and He could destroy them at any time also. God is in control.

In the name of God, Moses ordered to kill all the women and all the children, except the virgin girls that didn't sleep with men. I(n according to obey Moses' commandments, they killed the male children and examined every female child's virginity. And whosoever is found not virgin they killed according to God's commandment. The passage reads: [16 Are not these they, that deceived the children of Israel by the counsel of Balaam, and made you transgress against the Lord by the sin of Phogor, for which also the people was punished? 17 Therefore kill all that are of the male sex, even of the children: and put to death the women, that have carnally known men. 18 But the girls, and all the women that are virgins save for yourselves, Numbers 31:16 to 18.

In the name of God, Moses permitted his commander to keep thirty two thousands virgins girls, and to kill the girls that are not virgins, and to kill the male children also because this race followed Balaam's doctrines and transgressed God. The passage reads: 31 And Moses and Eleazar did as the Lord had commanded. 32 And the spoil which the army had taken, was six hundred seventy-five thousand sheep, 33 Seventy-two thousand oxen, 34 Sixty-one thousand asses: 35 and thirty-two thousand persons of the female sex that had not known men, Numbers 31:35. 

What kind of god is this, he commanded the people to kill those people because they worship strange gods. But God is capable to judge those sinners without the help of his creatures. If those people were ungodly, their virgin girls are ungodly as well. However, God commanded them to save the virgin girls for themselves; it was a perverted act in the name of god. The person that wrote this passage is evil and the god that he is talking about is satan.

Moses would never issue such evil commandment in the name of God Yahweh.

In the name of God, Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed those that tried to deceive the chosen people by strange gods, Deuteronomy 13:9 to 10.

The scripture in Deuteronomy 21:1, Moses spoke in the name of God concerning God's Law. He said: 1 These are the precepts and judgments, that you must do in the land, which the Lord the God of thy fathers will give thee, to possess it all the days that thou shall walk upon the earth, Deuteronomy 12:1.

The passage in Deuteronomy 13:6 to 10, Moses explains how you should kill a blasphemer or false prophet, even a member of your own family.

The passage reads: If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou love as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou know not, nor thy fathers, 7 Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other, 8 Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him, 9 But thou shall presently put him to death. It let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people. 10 With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 10.

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4 - Other religions kill in the name of God

 

Why Islam rejects Judaism, Christianity, and the western world?

Why the Jews reject Islam and Christianity, and why the Torah contains violent commandments?

Refer to page "Islamic and bible verses" and page "Ishmael and Isaac"

 

Why the Christian churches are welcoming all mankind from all religions including atheists?

Why all religions refuse Christianity, but Christianity accept them? In exception of the protestants that are killing the Catholics in Northern Island in the name of religions.

Do you recognize the violence of religions?

 

Why the orthodox Jews reject the Zionist Jews of Israel? Why the Jews are killing the Palestinians?

Why God Yahweh have permitted the Jews to kill "even relatives" and whosoever try to deceive them with strange gods? Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11

If Jesus spoke well of God's Law and Moses, who wrote the passage in (Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11) to kill people?

 

Why the moslems = (muslims) are killing each other in Iraq, the Jews, and the western world in the name of allah? (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5), (sourat almaeda 5:33), (sourat albakara 2:193), (sourat mohamed 47:4).

 

 

Are the Jews, Christians, and the Muslims worshiping the same God? If they are worshipping the same God, why God of the Christians love his enemies, but Allah of the Muslims and God of the Jews seek revenge to fight the enemies? Why God of the Jews commands the Jews to fight the Canaanites, and why Allah of the Muslim Canaanites commands Muslims to fight Jews and Christians? Something is wrong.

 

 

We are righteous because it is in our nature. We become evil by killing people because we aren't following the right God. In reality, there isn't other gods; there is one God, which is the Creator. The terrorists that are killing people are tempted by the devil.

How could we believe God commands us to fight or to kill people? Are we foolish?

 

Example: Do you believe a father would command his children to kill each other? Do you believe a master would command his servants to kill each other? It is the same thing with God. God would never ask His people to kill each other. How do you believe God commands you to kill people IF His commandment commands you NOT to kill? Think about it? We are under temptations. God doesnít need our HELP and to judge people, He is in control, not we. How can we help God if we can't even help ourselves, ignorant?

 

God's everlasting covenant with Abraham. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

God Word to Abraham: [MY COVENANT SHALL BE IN YOUR FLESH FOR AN EVERLASTING COVENANT. Geneses 17:12 to 14]

God's Word reads: [18 Lay up these my words in your hearts and minds, and hang them for a sign on your hands, and place them between your eyes. 19 Teach your children that they meditate on them, when thou sit in thy house, and when thou walk on the way, end when thou lie down and rise up. 20 Thou shall write them upon the posts and the doors of thy house, Deuteronomy 11:18 to 19.] God Law is for all mankind, not for the Jews or islam only, Leviticus 24:22.

 

The Jews, Christians, and the moslems = (muslims) believe in Moses as God's prophet. However, the Christians don't obey God's Commandments that was spoken by Moses because they abolished God's Law through the false apostle Paul. The Jews believe in Moses and in the Torah. The righteous Christians = (Christ's followers) believe in Moses, Jesus, and in the right Torah.

 

The moslems = (muslims) believe in Moses as God's prophet. However, they don't obey God's Commandments that was spoken by Moses; because they have their doctrines (koran = (quran), which is 20 percent identical to the Torah. Their doctrines commands them to kill those don't worship allah, Quran (sourat altawba 9:5), and the (Al Ė mushrekeen) =Christians = (polytheist) = Trinitarians that believe God the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit, and the Jews that allah cursed and turned into pigs and apes. The word "mushrekeen" in the quran means "Christians". Therefore, the moslems = (muslims) reject the Christians and the Jews worldwide. For more information about Islam, refer to page "koran = (quran)".

 

The difference between the Torah and the (koran = (quran) is that the Torah commands to kill those that try to deceive the Jews by strange God, Torah verse number, (Deuteronomy 13:9 to 10). The Jews transgress God's Commandments by depraving the strangers to embrace Judaism, which contradicts God's Word in the same book.

 

The Torah doesn't prohibit the strangers to embrace Judaism. God Yahweh permits all mankind to worship Him and to obey His peaceful Law "the Torah", Leviticus 24:22. The violence that is in the Torah isn't of God's Word. Those violent passages were added to the Torah after Moses' era.

 

The (koran = (quran) encourages the people to embrace the religion of Islam and to learn the (koran = (quran). However, the koran = (quran) commands the believers to kill whosoever doesn't submit to allah and his prophet. I could be wrong, refer to page "Islamic and bible verses" to read the passages.

 

The koran = (quran)'s passage of Islam reads: [So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters anywhere you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely allah is Forgiving, Merciful, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5)

 

Why Islam rejects Judaism, Christianity, and the western world? Why Judaism rejects other religions, and why the Torah contains violent commandment?

As a Christian, that follows God and Christ Jesus, not religions; I devoted my life to love and to help mankind disregard their religions and backgrounds. I dwelt in moslem = (muslim) area in the Middle East, which helped me to accept moslems = (muslims) as best friends with good relationships. My five Christian cousins, "two males, and three females" got married with moslems = (muslims). My good relation with my moslem = (muslim) friends encourages me to read the koran = (quran) to know about Godís Word that my moslem = (muslim) neighbors spoke of. I believed God has sent His Word to us through Jesus for the Christians and through mohamed for the moslems = (muslims). I believed that there isn't a difference between the moslems = (muslims), Jews, and the Christians. I even wanted to go to the mosque to pray, but I didn't have the chance to go with my friends, and I was going to marry a moslem = (muslim) girl that I love very much. She told me that her parents wouldnít let her marry me because I am Christian. Before I did read the koran = (quran), I had feeling that God's Word shall be the same as the bible. I didn't have any doubt to read the koran = (quran) because I believed that the koran = (quran) is the Word of God as well. I was very happy when one of my moslem = (muslim) friends agreed to give me the koran = (quran). After I have received the koran = (quran), I gave my friend the bible also. We were very happy and agreed with these gifts.

However, I noticed that my friend wrote a word on the first page of the koran = (quran); it reads: [No one touch it except the "altaherine"]. The word "altaherine" means "pure" or "sinless". This word left a question mark in my mind. Did my friend write this word because he gave the koran = (quran) to a Christian?

If he really did, it is because he wanted to protect his Allah's Word from defiled people as the Christians. I accepted his way of protection for his allahís Word. The reason that encourages me to read the koran = (quran) is because the moslems = (muslims) obey the word of allah in the koran = (quran) fully. I was sure that the koran = (quran) would help me to understand God's Word as well as Jesus' gospel and would guide me peacefully. I did read the koran = (quran) from cover to cover. I enjoyed reading allah's peaceful passages but I was confused reading some of his passages that contradict his peaceful commandments. I asked my moslem = (muslim) friends about those passages that I thought that they are violent. My moslem = (muslim) friend told me that I have to read the koran = (quran) with a religious person as "Sheck" to understand those violent passages.

My friend said: [the moslems = (muslims) have the right to protect themselves.] However, those commandments in those passages are the word of allah, not the moslems = (muslims). The violent commandments aren't to protect people or lands; it is to kill people that DON'T believe in allah and his prophet, and to kill sinners.

Then, I prayed to my God instead questioning my moslem = (muslim) friends about permitting moslems = (muslims) to fight sinners and why He isn't capable to judge sinners instead. I believe God the Creator doesnít need help from the creatures that He created. I did copy these passages and placed them in this page to get help from whosoever has an answer for these peaceful passages, as my friends claimed.

Do these passages indicate the peaceful word of allah? Please read.

The moslems = (muslims) claim that the religion of Islam is the most peaceful religion. Therefore, I don't believe allah would command his people to kill, crucify, cut hands, and feet of those that are against him and his prophet. The God that Jesus spoke of is Love and Peaceful also. If Islam is peaceful and the God that Jesus spoke of is peaceful also, why there are violent commandments in the koran = (quran) and in the Torah. However, Jesus' gospel doesn't contain any violent. Did Jesus spoke about different law of different torah, and did allah spoke different commandments?

Are the Jews, Christians, and the moslems = (muslims) worshipping the same God? Is allah the same God of the Christians and the Jews?

If allah is the same God that Jesus spoke of, why allah commands his people to kill the Jews and the Christians, and non-moslems = (muslims), and to act violently? If God of the Torah is the same God that Jesus spoke of why the violent commandments exist in the Torah and not in Jesus' gospel? Did Jesus spoke about different Torah and different God?

The koran = (quran)'s passage reads: The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, (koran = (quran) of Islam (sourat almaeda 5:33).

[Note: Al Ė mushrekeen are the Christians]. Even those commandments are considered violent, at least, the moslems = (muslims) obey their doctrines; other religions don't. The difference between both religions is that the (koran = (quran) allows the people to embrace the religion of Islam "allah". However, the Jews are depraving the people to embrace Judaism and to learn the Torah. The Jews believe that their God Yahweh and their Torah are for them only. Some christian churches as the protestant churches in Northern Island kill and reject other christian denominations; they believe that they are the only true christians. The Catholic Church welcomes all religions of all backgrounds. Concerning obedient, none of the Jews, protestant, and catholic obey God's Law the Torah. God wants obedience not violence. The seventh Day Adventist Church obeys Godís Ten Commandments and part of the ceremonial law.

I obey the authentic peaceful Torah and I believe in Jesus Christ. I love all the people from all backgrounds including Jews, moslems = (muslims), and Christians. However, I dislike sin and violence.

Yes, it is true, the koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight the unbelievers worldwide, the Jews and the Christians that don't believe in allah and his prophet mohamed. According to this commandment, the moslems = (muslims) are obeying alla's commandment fully. Even this commandment contains violence; the moslems = (muslims) are more obedient to their god (allah) than the Jews and the Christians. I am NOT encouraging violence, I am debating obedience.

However, does this kind of obedience consider faithful, yes, but to their book, not according to peaceful humanity. I would feel safer with peaceful people that worship idols, than with those that are faithful to their book and their god that commands to kill people. At least those that worship idols don't kill people.

The koran = (quran) permits all mankind to embrace islam and to worship allah. The Jews deprave the non-Jews to obey the Torah and to worship God Yahweh. The Christians are disgracing God by disobeying His Law in "the original Torah" through the false apostle Paul. Did God announce those violent commandments in the Torah? God has nothing to do with these violent commandments, God is love, He commands us to love, and prohibits us to kill.

The Jews believe God is God of the Jews and God of Israel only. The Christians love God and obey Paul's theology instead God Yahweh. God Yahweh is God of all mankind; God the creator is not God of the Jews and the moslems = (muslims) only.

For more information about the violent passages that are in the Torah, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".

The koran = (quran) commands the moslems = (muslims) to fight sinners and those that don't believe in allah. koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors, (sourat albakara 2:193).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [Fighting is enjoined = (requested) on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and allah knows, while you do not know, (sourat albakara 2:216).]
 

 koran = (quran) of Islam reads, allah says: [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.[47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
[47.6] And
cause them to enter the garden = [paradise = Janah of allah] which He has made known to them. (sourat mohamed 47:4 to 6)]

 

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and allah will inform them of what they did, (sourat almaeda 5:14).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, (sourat almaeda 5:33)]

 koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [O followers of the Book = (Torah bible old and new testaments)! [you are nothing] you follow no good to keep up the Taurat = (Torah) and the A-njel = (Gospel) = (new testaments) and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the blaspheme people, (sourat almaeda 5:68 to 75),

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from allah's way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in allah's way, announce to them a painful chastisement,
[35] On the day when it shall be heated in the fire of hell, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it; this is what you hoarded up for yourselves, therefore taste what you hoarded,
(sourat altawba 9:34 to 35)]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And whoever does not believe in allah and his apostle, then surely We have prepared burning fire for the unbelievers, (sourat alfatih 48:13),

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists = (Moushrekeen) = (Christians) = (Trinitarians) shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men, (sourat albaynet 98:6).]

koran = (quran) of Islam reads: [And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He = (allah) then chastise you for your faults? (sourat almaada 5:18).]

I am not affirming Islam is better religion than Christianity. I am debating obedience, and the violence of religions in this text.

Debating the violent commandments is another subject; God judges sinners, not you.

The koran = (quran) prohibits moslems = (muslims) to be friend with Jews and Christians because both are related.

The koran = (quran)'s passage reads: [O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely allah does not guide the unjust people. koran = (quran) (sourat almaida 5:51)]

The koran = (quran) call the Jews "donkey carrying doctrines", because they were told to carry the Torah but they lied through Godís scriptures. The koran = (quran)'s passage reads: [The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat = (Torah), then they did not observe it as an ass = (donkey) bearing misery books in likeness of the people who reject the communications of allah; and allah does not guide the unjust people, (sourat aljoumaa 62:5).]

The Torah also commands the Hebrews to kill the Canaanites to overcome their lands, and those that try to deceive them to worship strange gods. But the Torah doesn't commands the Jews to force people to embrace Judaism. HOWEVER, the Quran commands muslims to force people to convert to Islam or death.

References from the Quran of Islam (sourat altawba 9:5) and  (sourat altawba 9:29)

References from the Torah of Judaism Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11

The Torah commands the people to kill in the name of God also, Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 17:5 to 7, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11, Deuteronomy 21:20 to 23, Deuteronomy 22:20 to 24, Numbers 14:8 to 10, Numbers 15:32 to 36, Numbers 35:16 to 17. The Torah passage reads: [6 If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou love as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou knowest not, nor thy fathers, 7 Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other, 8 Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him, 9 But thou shalt presently put him to death. It Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people. 10 With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage: 11 That all Israel hearing may fear, and may do no more any thing like this, Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11. ]

Are we worshipping a peaceful God? How do we know we are worshipping the right God, the Creator?

 

If our religion commands us to kill those that are in other religions; and the other religions command their followers to kill people from our religion, WHO IS SERVING THE RIGHT GOD IN THOSE RELIGIONS? No one, I don't believe God commands the people to kill each other. Religions don't exist in God's Kingdom. Our relation is with the peaceful God, not with religion. Any religion or religious person, or any prophet issues violent commandments to kill people in the name of God; the religion, the religious person, and the prophet are false.

God Yahweh is for all mankind, not for the Jews, the moslems = (muslims), and the Christians. I was rejected in America and in Canada by the Jews to learn the Torah and even to enter into the synagogue to worship God, [because I am not Jewish]. I had visited many protestant churches; [including pentecostal churches] I was getting lessons by pastors to abolish God's Law and to hate other Christians that arenít protestants. They gave me two choices, get baptism by their pastors, or leave the church. The Mormon church prohibited me to take the Lordís Supper because I am Catholic. They believe that the Catholic Church isnít a Christian Church and isnít entitled to baptize people. This kind of teaching is evil. I am not declaring that the moslems = (muslims) are better Judaism and Christianity, no one is perfect; God is. OBEY GOD'S PEACEFUL LAW and stay away from violence. God is in control, not YOU.

For more information about God's commandments concerning the strangers and the chosen, refer to page "Strangers and the Chosen people"  and  "Chosen people".

We can't blame the moslems = (muslims) for "jihad" killing the unbelievers and their enemies in this world. They are obeying their god = (allah) word; it is written in their doctrines, refer to page "Islamic and bible verses". Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed millions of people to overcome the lands of Canaan = (Chanaan) to establish the Promised Land Israel. Moses and Joshua = (Josue) didn't force or kill for religion and for faithfulness' sake.

According to some violent commandments that are in the Torah, Moses and Joshua = (Josue) killed those that tried to deceive the chosen people through strange gods. It is written in the Torah verse number, (Deuteronomy 13:9 to10). God is capable to destroy the flesh and the spirit; He doesn't need human to kill for Him. God commands us to obey His Law to have safe world, not to kill each other.

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac".]

God doesn't force anyone to obey Him; He permits the people to choose between good and evil. The Jews deprave the strangers to learn the Torah and embrace Judaism. However, God permits the strangers to obey His Law "the Torah", to repent, and to offer sacrifices, (Leviticus 24:22) (Isaiah 45:22), It means the Jews don't obey God's Word. However, the religion of Islam is struggling to convert sinners and unbelievers to obey their god's = (allah) law of the ďkoran = (quran)Ē. However, both religions don't agree that their God is the same God. I believe God is one. There is no other gods but God Yahweh. Christianity achieved to abolish God' Law, and the protestant are killing the catholic for personnel objectives. [Note: Isaiah = (Isaias) = (Yesha'yahu)]

Many of God's prophets in the bible sinned and killed. Therefore, we can't blame one group or one religion only; we don't know who is right and who is wrong. No one is perfect. There is no difference between killing for the land and killing to cleanse the world from the unbelievers. Both acts are not peaceful. We can't act as God; God is the judge and He is in control, not religion.

If God prohibits us to kill, why He commands us to kill people in His name?

allah's word in the koran = (quran) of Islam: don't kill the soul, (sourat alinaam 6:151). Don't kill your people, (sourat alnisa 4:29). And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is hell; he shall abide in it, and allah will send His wrath on him and curse him and prepare for him a painful chastisement.
 (sourat alnisaa 4:93). And do not kill any one whom allah has forbidden, (sourat alisra 17.33). Killing human is blaspheming, (sourat abas 80:17).

For more information, refer to page "Ishmael and Isaac", page "God", page "Torah", page "Torah Mitzvot", page "Torah and Jesus; gospel", page "Jesus and Moses", for Paul's church, refer to page "False apostles".

Are the giants the descendants of Cain and Esau? For more information about the "peaceful" Torah, Jesus' gospel, the Promised Land, Ishmael, Isaac, Esau, the daughters of men, and the giants, refer to page "Giants" and page "Gog and Gog / Cain's race", and page "Ishmael / Isaac".

[Note: Why there are peaceful and violent commandments in the Torah? For more information, refer to page "Ishmael / Isaac".]

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5 - Conclusion:

I believe the original Torah is God's peaceful Word and it doesn't contain any violent commandments.

Moses didn't command the people to kill false prophets and ungodly people in the name of God. God is capable to kill them without letting His people committing such crimes. 

If we are worshiping the god of religion that commands us to kill people, it means we are worshipping the wrong god, not God the Creator.

Seek God's blessing and His peaceful Word to achieve prosperity and peaceful world.

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